so ash, you did not get a prize today right?

At least 50% definitely wrong.

Richard Tanner never changing

it's weird bc i still feel like TN did something early that spewed her villa

but she seems totally disconnected from this game...

(then again, similar to her performance as a villa in MLP:IV imo)

dwetz is not a wolf. effen is the best wagon of those voters on sooted.

how do you know what roles the wilves have?

what's your conditional seeing roal, loose?

i know they only have one vig since we haven't been hit by a wolf vig since it died

lol france

Just caught this post when CT quoted it and it stood out.

If the day kills are neutrals (which I think we all agree they probably are), then yeah, something doesn't make sense with regards to Ash.

Either he's a neutral, which I'm not seeing at the moment, or the neutral team doesn't fear seers (godfathers obv). Neutrals that peek villa are so overpowered that I'd guess one of two things is true:

1) There's only one neutral and he peeks villa
2) Ash isn't telling us everything.

Silman is so invisible itg that i keep feeling like he died d2 or something...

why are you complaining about how much firepower the village has?

Ok, I think I see a way understand what LK was trying to say in those two posts about "after VMF flips wolf" - if you give him the benefit of the doubt. (Not saying we necessarily should, just saying they make sense if one wants to.)

The way to interpret "after" is "for after" and "wolf" as "vanilla wolf".

LK's point would be that as VMF is a *vanilla* wolf - something he didn't explicit say iirc (but I may have missed it), if RT was a wolf and says he has RB'ed VMF before VMF dies that's fine for him (RT) because there's no missing actions from VMF from previous nights to explain - because VMF's just vanilla - whenever VMF dies.

At the moment I don't see what we know (but **warning** I still haven't had a chance to read pp76-80) about why zdye's vig didn't go through. The most usual explanations would be that either his target was angeled or he was role-blocked - and we haven't see dead wolf angels or RBs yet, so if there is a 'typical' mishmash it's quite likely there would be one or both

You're right about me, but I too wish you'd hurry up and show your work.

i was peeking FOR someone whereupon i would kill that player and mason with another player.

both of those players are dead.

i'm not going to mess with claiming who they were because it looks like an angle to me that i'm not ready to risk modkill shooting.

Some brief reasoning why you like an Effen lynch more than TN?

and there are so maaaany people soft defending RT right now with no real reason when there is mechanical evidence that he lied!

To conclude, I think it's #1 since if we assume a normal sized wolf team, having more than one neutral seems bloated and if there are two and they don't fear seers, we're sort of screwed (72o knows what I'm talking about )

I never lied. I got an RB and RB'ed VMF

lol france

if you reread my lists i've made from d2 morning on it follows logically, and with some thin general reasoning. but i'll go back and post why i came to that consensus later. i was planning on doing that before eod anyway. i think you're a terrible wagon.

Headed out to class, will be back on the phone for a bit

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I was thinking yesterday silman / bjlky team

again, i'll have to go back and dig up old posts. if you follow my lists throughout the game you'll see my thought pattern. i'll let you know that i had pushed effen back up into the "not sure" category yesterday and then CT's pointing of effen supposedly "hating binkles" (which is a super strong d2 read to make in a vacuum) looked fishy after binkles was knowingly peeked/tripwired. it looked like effen distancing himself from binkles.