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Very reasonable to conclude that VMF was the wolves' angel and Zdye targeted him. Roleblock could have been put on anyone, really. Probably not me though.

wait wait wait wait

you said d3 that you were roleblocked.

now you're saying they probably didn't rb you last night.

why in the hell would wolves neither rb you nor vig you?

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11-19-2012 , 05:54 PM

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anyway TN & Effen prob need some HEAT

i'll re-think this loose stuff...

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11-19-2012 , 05:54 PM

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so why does the full seer not have a peek today?

I did not have power last night, by the time I got it back and got online this morning the thread was already opened so I did not get a peek last night. The night before (Friday night) I was absolutely 100% roleblocked though because I did submit a peek and received nothing.

Anyway, long story short: I probably cannot help the village any further at this point mechanically because assuming normal role mechanics they can probably RB me tonight and then just nk me tomorrow night when I can't be angeled, so this mechanics talk is really moot.

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11-19-2012 , 05:54 PM

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oh, lol

that's why he's MAD then, bc he's an idiot...

he prob was RB'd anyway, zdye prob shot at VMF who was angel'd imo

BUT, he is saying he didn't get a peek over the weekend, which means he had to have been RB'd n2. And wolf RB'er usually can't target the same person back to back nights, so it's actually probable that he WASN'T RB'd last night.

Assuming he's telling the truth about everything, that is. Do I have that wrong?

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11-19-2012 , 05:55 PM

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wait wait wait wait

you said d3 that you were roleblocked.

now you're saying they probably didn't rb you last night.

why in the hell would wolves neither rb you nor vig you?

Usually RB can't be done on the same person two nights in a row. I am assuming it is that way in this game as well. I was definitely roleblocked Friday night.

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11-19-2012 , 05:55 PM

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anyway TN & Effen prob need some HEAT

I did a re-read of both today, you can go back and check my posts to get some of the bullet points.

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11-19-2012 , 05:55 PM

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since when can a wolf rber not rb the same person in b2b nights?

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11-19-2012 , 05:55 PM

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why partly for me? do you think my tunneling has been unwarranted? you've obviously seen every step i've made in the read so answer honestly, do you think i've been obtuse/illogical with my read or do you feel victimized by it and want to naturally retaliate?

I think you've been pushing me with an agenda and not honestly. I think you've been grasping at weak things (you can always say I need to do more work) and ignoring things that don't fit your case (oh RT was on a wolf? Just tmi, move on). You're a wolf trying to push a mislynch.

If you flip villa I'll be upset with you because I think you should've seen how thin some of the major pieces of your case were.

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11-19-2012 , 05:55 PM

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yeah that's true, you usually can't RB the same person b2b, unless even/odd powers

and we haven't seen any of those yet, have we?

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11-19-2012 , 05:56 PM

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i thought angels were the only role that worked that way.

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11-19-2012 , 05:57 PM

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since when can a wolf rber not rb the same person in b2b nights?

Thought this was standard, am I wrong? I've def seen it, perhaps it's mod's choice.

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11-19-2012 , 05:57 PM

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okay well then hang on

it makes even LESS sense then. if the wolves KNEW they couldn't rb a full seer then they HAVE TO KILL THE FULL SEER.

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11-19-2012 , 05:57 PM

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yeah that's true, you usually can't RB the same person b2b, unless even/odd powers

and we haven't seen any of those yet, have we?

This is a good point. It is entirely possible that they have two roleblockers.

And no, we have not seen that yet, in fact we haven't seen any RB'ers flip that I know of. Strangely mostly villa roles keep dying.

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11-19-2012 , 05:58 PM

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I think you've been pushing me with an agenda and not honestly. I think you've been grasping at weak things (you can always say I need to do more work) and ignoring things that don't fit your case (oh RT was on a wolf? Just tmi, move on). You're a wolf trying to push a mislynch.

If you flip villa I'll be upset with you because I think you should've seen how thin some of the major pieces of your case were.

i'll highlight this for later and ask some folks who aren't playing but read the thread their opinion. i'll be interested in hearing the result.

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11-19-2012 , 05:58 PM

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okay well then hang on

it makes even LESS sense then. if the wolves KNEW they couldn't rb a full seer then they HAVE TO KILL THE FULL SEER.

Angeled last night brah

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11-19-2012 , 05:59 PM

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yes we HAVE lost an rb

and it says nothing about two nights in a row

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11-19-2012 , 05:59 PM

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I'll let the angel decide what to do wrt mechanics, I admit it's sidetracking.

Can someone do a vote count?

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11-19-2012 , 05:59 PM

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tanner and vmf are not w/w. and tanner is the more likely wolf.

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Richard Tanner >>>> effen > BJ

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good point you're making here. when i made that read earlier vmf wasn't dead. now that he is and flipped wolf it's making a hell of a lot more sense.

see? i didn't know vmf would flip wolf! not that anybody here now cares though.

At 10:36AM EST loosekanen says that tanner and vmf are not w/w

At 2:31PM EST, looshle posts VMF's death write-up in the event thread

At 2:37PM EST loosekanen votes Tanner

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11-19-2012 , 05:59 PM

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okay well then hang on

it makes even LESS sense then. if the wolves KNEW they couldn't rb a full seer then they HAVE TO KILL THE FULL SEER.

angel levels and stuff tho? plus Tanner won a "RB"...

yeah this is weird, not quite sure why they would have felt the need to take out zdye unless he was peeked, but okse died as their seer a few days ago...

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This is a good point. It is entirely possible that they have two roleblockers.

nah, prob not

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11-19-2012 , 05:59 PM

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To RB+NK someone usually means the wolves know their role and since their seer died on d2, that doesn't seem likely.

lolooshle confirmed itt this morning that if the wolves have a seer and that seer makes a peek n2 and is killed n2 then despite his being dead he is able to share his peek with his wolfy friend. go figure. Boo was pretty rustled at the time

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11-19-2012 , 05:59 PM

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okay well then hang on

it makes even LESS sense then. if the wolves KNEW they couldn't rb a full seer then they HAVE TO KILL THE FULL SEER.

Hmm, ya. WTF.

Other possibility, which is really

but I mentioned it earlier. RT is a wolf who won a peek, not a RB, and they peeked Zdye villa vig and opted to kill him over the seer.

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11-19-2012 , 06:00 PM

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yes we HAVE lost an rb

and it says nothing about two nights in a row

Ah okay, well that makes it easier. I'll be roleblocked forever. I almost definitely was last night too if they have one, meaning they probably angeled VMF.

Okay so enough mechanics talk I'm actually sorry I brought it up.