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11-18-2012 , 04:47 AM
Moni, I will drop all of this if you point out a post today where someone says you look good from any dead wolf.
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11-18-2012 , 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Bryant Reeves
moni: i think a big reason why insanity might have been killed n1 is that he was on Euroa's ass already

insanity claimed to read Euroa well, and had him as a wolf on D1

it could very well be as simple as that
yea there are plenty of reasons

but it was obvious that binkles spoke somewhat candidly about the night kill he played a part in and i picked up on it right away
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11-18-2012 , 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by zdye724
Henrik, gad, and hurp legit dgaf about all of this.

And that's not a good look.
yeah seriously, about what?

i'm not really following wtf you guys are arguing about

also i've been trying to go to bed for like 2 hours or something...
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11-18-2012 , 04:49 AM
captain binkles
Duckburg
urotrash
Forsythio
Gadarene
Monikrazy

i'd rate those people as better willagers than insanity

few more controversial ones i've left out but meh
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11-18-2012 , 04:50 AM
Duck can be a really good player, but he's been fairly mediocre in the last bunch of games i've played with him
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11-18-2012 , 04:50 AM
top 4 isnt as outlandish as i thought. but i know not many will agree with the duckburg call for eg

im not gonna think too much about it. i dont think it's wolfy of monik to have 'noticed' this or harp on this subject

unless this is actually the very transcript of their conversation on skype chat at the time

dont think so
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11-18-2012 , 04:50 AM
I would actually like to hear Moni's cliffnotes on this interaction, cause if he can describe it in a villagery manner i'd be surprised.
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11-18-2012 , 04:51 AM
Duck's also a better wolf than villa imo
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11-18-2012 , 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Bryant Reeves
Duck can be a really good player, but he's been fairly mediocre in the last bunch of games i've played with him
him misinterpreting gad's peek as henrik=w was a bit of a killer

i still have regrets in that game of not being able to prevent your misljunch among others
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11-18-2012 , 04:52 AM
it's not just that game, but yeah
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11-18-2012 , 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by loosekanen
okse mentions and what they mean as i see it:

starting d1:



anybody claiming forsy isn't a busser needs to be quiet now. he started pushing his tammate early d1.



monik responded to forsy here and it doesn't feel like w/w. slight +v to monik



gad also starts to look really good in this discussion. he has more



euro starts bussing him too



gad continues to push okse but it doesn't feel like a bus to me.



accobra responds this AT euro and i think it makes him a villager 99% of the time here. when coupled with his work i will not support an accobra lynch anytime soon. he's very close to clear imo.



someone who reads monik better than i do let me know if this is w/w?



this still doesn't feel like bussing. gad not on okse's team afaict.



this didn't read as positively as monik's earlier posts pushing okse and i got a little concerned with it.



euro drops in the thread and makes a vote on okse. vagos comes at him for it. i tend to think that in totality just on work alone that vagos is probably a villager but this post jumped out at me and scared me a bit that it could possibly be w/w. still though, far way from thinking vagos is overall wolfy.



now here's where it gets fun. richard tanner is SUPER confident that okse is a wolf and it reads like so many new wolves who are afraid to say things that make them incorrect. it will continue.



more tanner bussing?









four posts from effen that i find interesting but i'm not sure what to make of them. at first i wanted to find them wolfy but there was so much heat on okse, including bussing from the wolf team all game, that i don't feel like effenwolf would make this play here.



still feeling a bit skittish about monik but as of this point i think it's +v. wolf monik not going to keep making the same post and then try to take credit for it multiple times later.



tanner is SO confident. not a good look here.



kruze kruzing... but it's worth at least a little notice. gad was nowhere near wolfier than okse yesterday.







tanner can't stop mentioning how much he loves the okse lynch. i think it feels WAY overdone and at this point i'm willing to believe tanner is a wolf.









dwetzel gets villa points for me from this set of posts. the wagons are happening. euro is gonan get lynched. why even come in at this point and call attention to yourself wrt your wolf tammate wagon if dwetz is a wolf? it just makes no sense.

tl;dr cliffs:

gad: +villa points
monik: +villa points
accobra: almost certainly a villager. 97%
dwetz: +villa points

richard tanner: was so incredibly confident that okse was going to flip wolf, when coupled with boo's obvservation yesterday that tanner was tmi (and it's true if you read him early d1) i'm moving tanner down to the wolf list. i think he's a great wagon today.
here's one zdye, and i think there are several others in similar context

again this pattern today of you 'defering' to the thread is not something i like


it seems like something a wolf would do to try and go with the flow rather than be forced to take a position
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11-18-2012 , 04:53 AM
anyway zz time bye
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11-18-2012 , 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by zdye724
I would actually like to hear Moni's cliffnotes on this interaction, cause if he can describe it in a villagery manner i'd be surprised.
on which intereaction?


tell me the truth are you just doing a terrible job reading the thread because you are reading from the phone and trying to cover it up by demanding everything be quoted
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11-18-2012 , 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Outed Wolf
i wonder how vyk's AC trip is going
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11-18-2012 , 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Outed Wolf
i really dont

personal wars in a big mishmashes i tend to ignore cause in the bigger scheme of things they mean much less than the matters at hand

if you raise enough of a ruckus i'll look at it
You already ignored me earlier.

This is not a personal war.

This is no kruze v. gadarene *****fight

This is a war based on this particular game.

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Originally Posted by monikrazy
seriously zdye

that is wolfy

you just tried to tell me i was wolfy based on someone who is still basically learning to play

he has played one game as a wolf, i dont think he has ever been a seer and you are deferring to him on me being wolfy?

really?
You completely ignored every other point that I made in that post.

I took up this crusade independent from ashington, who you speak so highly of.
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11-18-2012 , 04:57 AM
zdye this is what you should do

reread my interactions with euro, binkles, okse and fors


pretend they were never peeked

decide whether they feel natural


then after you have done that go back and decide on the degree of difficulty and effort they would be to fake if i were a wolf, and if it would be even possible

my position is that if you do this you should feel very comftrable clearing me and wouldn't feel a need to reassess unless i was not killed within the next several days
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11-18-2012 , 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Outed Wolf
him misinterpreting gad's peek as henrik=w was a bit of a killer

i still have regrets in that game of not being able to prevent your misljunch among others
I still have regrets in that game of not just saying I PEEKED MONIK WOLF

Can't wait till the next time I rand seer
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11-18-2012 , 05:01 AM
Ok, so this what you think makes you look "golden"


"monik responded to forsy here and it doesn't feel li"ke w/w. slight +v to monik"

"someone who reads monik better than i do let me know if this is w/w?"

"still feeling a bit skittish about monik but as of this point i think it's +v. wolf monik not going to keep making the same post and then try to take credit for it multiple times later."

So even though the only person who gives you even the slightest bit of credit still feels skittish about you.

Go ahead, find more posts about you.
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11-18-2012 , 05:03 AM
I think monik/zdye is probbbbbbably v/v
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11-18-2012 , 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by monikrazy
zdye this is what you should do

reread my interactions with euro, binkles, okse and fors


pretend they were never peeked

decide whether they feel natural


then after you have done that go back and decide on the degree of difficulty and effort they would be to fake if i were a wolf, and if it would be even possible

my position is that if you do this you should feel very comftrable clearing me and wouldn't feel a need to reassess unless i was not killed within the next several days
What interaction with euroa?

What interaction with okse?

Show me one post from either of them that mentions you.

Interactions means actually conversing with them.
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11-18-2012 , 05:09 AM
here is a series of posts made by me and dead wolves, combined with my other interactions with them at various times i think it should be clear that my reactions are genuine and not faked and that they provide strong proof of me being a villager

note, i leave out most of euros responses but like binkles he should have stopped posting once he was outed because he does respond to me

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Originally Posted by vyk07
Euro = Dan Gilbert the w0alf vig



I AM THE INDISPUTABLE GOAT!!!!!!!!!!!
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tailors are a fairly uncommon role, i would not be considering it in the context of most claims

that euro brought it up in response to the claim looks somewhat bad in itself
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well at least one other explanation would come much more logically to mind
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right now i pretty much suspect vyk made this claim for reactions and that it isnt real
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so euro it didnt cross your mind that vyk could be fake claiming?
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maybe

but dont you think if he made the specific claim and it was correct euro just stops posting
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millers can have different roles

its up to mod flavour in game design
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Originally Posted by monikrazy
the way millers work is that if someone is peeked they have a different description of their role than their actual role

typically a miller is a vanilla villager who peeks as a wolf
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Originally Posted by monikrazy
vyk if you are going to unclaim this please do it soon as i am going to eat dinner and wont be happy if i come back and thread is completely disorganized
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and if you are telling the truth, great work
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i would freeroll a peek for reaction almost always, maybe multiple times
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i never suggested euro as a peek but if think its a reasonable peek
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ok well good

i just had to bring it up because i am all for FPS but especially Friday night withdrawing it late could cause problems

ill just be back later to take care of a small bit of business but my work is largely done
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whatever

no need to be upset, if he found the wolf vig he can say whatever he wants
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vyk could actually pretty much lolcat the rest of the game if hes telling the truth now and i wouldnt mind too much i dont think
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didnt you specifically claim vanilla earlier?
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Euro claim now 60 seconds or less
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Originally Posted by monikrazy
euro just before you claim let me summarize what you have said since vyk said he peeked you

1. you were tailored
2. you are a vanilla
3. recently you now are not a vanilla

credibility is very low
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60 seconds has passed

guilty
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i peeked thenothing villa

safety peek
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nope not buying it

your reactions are not synonymous with a villager being falsely accused
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i guess its possible you are a villager

if thats the case all you can do is post your thoughts on why vyk would fake peek you and advice for how to proceed after today

right now i am fairly skeptical

i also think you have contradicted yourself all ready, so this isn't one of the rare instances where i would consider an alternative wagon




i will note that if euro does flip villa there is a good chance vyk is angeled by wolves so potential vig shots should consider carefully


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Originally Posted by Eurotrash
i know you think i'm some previous-level wearwoalf chump but suffice to say your boay has earned his share of woalf pelts.

further, i do not contradict myself. I originally claimed vanilla, then I made a statement that when you mislynch me you lose far moar than a vanilla. anybody with a knowledge of the english language and a feel for phrasing understands the intent of that poast
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11-18-2012 , 05:13 AM
so yeah zdye maybe if you didnt go back and do a reread of the parts i am thinking of you could maybe be like wtf is monik talking about

but i feel like euro and binkles both inadvertently spewed me

and that i have things going on with fors and okse that wouldn't really happen if we were w/w is just a bonus

just the stuff with binkles and euro d2 is just kind of lol worthy - you even saw me feeling so good about it that i was telling binkles how bad an idea it was right before he got lynched so i knew one of the last things he would see was about him leaving the wolf team in a worse position because of his really arrogant play

to think that he could post without spewing there
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11-18-2012 , 05:14 AM
"dead wolves"

That's only one wolf.

And the only time euro ever addressed you was:

"i know you think i'm some previous-level wearwoalf chump but suffice to say your boay has earned his share of woalf pelts.

further, i do not contradict myself. I originally claimed vanilla, then I made a statement that when you mislynch me you lose far moar than a vanilla. anybody with a knowledge of the english language and a feel for phrasing understands the intent of that poast"

And how, exactly, does this clear you?
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11-18-2012 , 05:16 AM
that last post euro makes to me is pretty big spew

if i was on the same team for example he probably wouldn't say i would call him a chump

or want to argue about contradicting himself - maybe he actually felt he didn't contradict himself but he probably wouldn't involve himself with a teammate in that way


i mean for him to be faking that after surprise peek would be expert level wolfing - im talking fully engaged well named level play
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11-18-2012 , 05:17 AM
zdye stop fighting me

if you are a wolf you will die sooner or later but if you are a villager you are being willfully obtuse at this point
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