all i remember about any of your posts is a lot of commentary and fluff, no wolf hunting, no trying to push your reads, ect... you're not doing villager stuff
Dude you got a villager killed d1 and tried to keep binkles alive last night. If we would just do the opposite of whatever you say we would be even closer to winning. Your opinion this game is valueless
This is fair, I can't really read him that well either, I just don't know that there are a whole lot of better options right now (besides Boo ldo). I feel like I've seen VMF start the weekend phone it in routine in both roles too so him checking out for the next day or two here wouldn't even shed much light...
I just re-read XXSooted and other than a lack of participation, nothing jumps out at me as noticeably wolfy, but don't think I've ever played with him.
RT has been more villagery today imo, didn't try to force anything with the BJL MQ, came off to me as an earnest re-read.
yeah but he usually starts off posting up a storm & then falls back over the weekend, just like me, just like a lot of people. he did NOT start off posting up a storm this game.
xxsooted never posts much either. frankly, i don't even remember anything he's done. guess i need to read to see if what he's actually said is wolfy or not.
Caught up (to #5544) - and some of it is pretty brutal stuff. Boo-OutedWolf duet right up there with Kruze-levels of not what is good. Genuninely tlltr notes so far. (And, ...sigh ... yes ... this is villa for me.)
Anyway, that was a good last hour of day and not too bad night imo. Most of the leans I had have been resolved - or at least semi - so I have to start looking more closely at some people I haven't really noticed so far.
I assume the apparently self-inflicted/suicide are 3rd-party or serial killer deaths. Is there some recent-NBA lore i'm missing which would fit with that?
It looks like Tweedy may have vigged okse54. Given that when euro claimed villa vig he claimed to have vigged LKJ - and supposing that he just lied in changing his affiliation - it's possible that both he and tweedy vigged LKJ - as I posted in my summary of LKJ's day 1 Tweedy voted for him and although he switched his vote off him didn't revoke his reasoning (he just got attracted to a 'better' wagon). That could explain the 'two men' getting LKJ - although pretty speculative & maybe too neat given possible role-blockers, angels etc.
Loosek and silman-the-seer. I did read the posts d1 (or maybe after night d1 - don't remember), but I didn't take/spot this as a clear seer signal. Loose was one of
of my villa-leans y'day and still is after reading this far today, so I'm not sure what to make of him being so certain that Silman is the seer. Whatever the theoretically correct thing to do about outing that to the thread goes, now its done I think loosek needs to resolve this with Silman when the latter comes into the thread. (fwiw Silman is a villa-read for me since early-ish d1 and I didn't see why to change so far.)
not sure if this was covered, but early today monik asked why someone was trying to find out the villa angel .... answer: Boo claimed yesterday and Ash refered to this extensively after he himself claimed at EOD.
TN-CT over what CT did at close of play last night.. Ok, so I still don't really find it in my heart to love the intentional misunderstanding in order to induce a shroop play. I guess some people have this in their wolf-catching armoury - I still find it itself wolfy. Imo it's moderately obvious what CT is trying to say that he did - ie what his action were. (What that means and whether what CT is trying to say it means is reasonable are different question.)
CT: you say that in the run up to eod you were watching movies with your girlfriend (up to 3am CET) and when that finished you romantically checked in to the thread to see the reveal. Your defence against doing this as a wolf is that you would have known that binkles was lead wagon and there would be no vote shenanigans, even with you a distant second. So would you have been in wolf chat in the middle of your movie, with your girlfriend, at 2am, in order to know that? It seems more likely if you were a wolf you would have left wolf chat some time earlier safe in the knowledge that Euro was the lynch (if not before) and quite possibly not be up to speed on whether there was some way you may get lynched. I don't think you are cleared by your explanation.
(For those still reading, impressively/depressingly often I have Vmgp scribble down in my notes.)
to be fair to moni, his binkes-shroop isn't quite "nothing to do with in game events" (zdye) if I'm reading it right: I presume he means that he thinks that binkles was rating insanity in the 4 best villagers out of the non-wolf players in the game - which is in the stretch in-game. But, blimey, moni's posts are horrid throughout. Obv I spent happy time in the company of LKJ yesterday and absorbed some of his view on the matter, but #cmonson
Originally Posted by moni
you are on a completely different level where huge portions of how you assume the game is played are flat-out incorrect.
srsly? if so they you are probably the one on the wrong level.
also people claiming to be lock clear/100% spewed clear without strong evidence are in the using hyperbole which is supposed to blind the village class. Ofc if you think that mother knows best and the other villagers can't be trusted then go ahead. But #notagoodlook .
Boo. ?? Hard to know what to say. Maybe some of you have useful meta with him, but it doesn't look like it from the thread. I think the "village should get punished for Nutshot getting modkilled"-line is role neutral, though I do understand Ash et als frustration. But his postings definitely make it harder for the village to solve the game.
Ash - maybe this was a throw away remark, but you said that you thought that you must have been angeled last night because you survived and that therefore Boo couldn't be the villa angel, as he claimed, because he had you on ignore.
I don't think either of those are necessarily correct. Taking the latter first. Hold'Em made a BOLDCAPS post very close to night asking the villa angel to angel you (and I think did so on p48 as well - not checking that now). So if the villa angel was reading the EOD before submitting a night action then he may well have looked to see what was going on & why Hold'em was advocating that. (Ofc if Boo really checks out for the night at 7pm when he has night actions and never reads more then ...) But even the first point is doubtful. Tweedy was wolf-team killed and it's possible that the wolves, having lost Euro's vig, only had one kill last night. They may have got Tweedy as a fallback trying to dodge failing on you because of an angel. (Afaik you were the only player who anyone had asked to angel.)
Current leans (mainly inherited from the past two days + some tinges of up to here today, but not fully integrated). (No particular order within lines.)
vyk, ash (via claims which appear good),
maybe BR, gad, BJL, zdye
dar0 .. but I don't understand what happened with the Euro-kill & more generally about whether there might be neutrals in the game
On the radar, but I don't know what you are:
TN, VMF, Hardcore, Richard Tanner
Boo, moni, Kruze (is his role really to earn stuff by people itt showing screenshots of him on ignore? - seem the most likely explanation to me)