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11-15-2012 , 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Silman
who are you btw?
and do you think binkles is villagery
or just that zyde's vote was wolfy?
i'm a fellow pam fan
i think he is a villager yes
and i think zdye's vote was wolfy

we shall see
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11-15-2012 , 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Outed Wolf
i dont like the way you hemmed and hawwed before awkwardly laying out your vote

esp early d1

but if you are a willager you have nothing to hide anyways right?
I hemmed and hawwed before voting binkles
are you calling me a wolf?
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11-15-2012 , 04:39 AM
Silman, perhaps we are just butthurt about the mlp game and it's clouding our judgement.

However, I didn't bother to break down his logic in that game, I just glossed over most of his early posts and assumed my tone read on him was good. In feel it is necessary to engage, rather than ignore, him here.
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11-15-2012 , 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Silman
I hemmed and hawwed before voting binkles
are you calling me a wolf?
i havent read your posts cause the formatting is hard to read
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11-15-2012 , 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by zdye724
Silman, perhaps we are just butthurt about the mlp game and it's clouding our judgement.

However, I didn't bother to break down his logic in that game, I just glossed over most of his early posts and assumed my tone read on him was good. In feel it is necessary to engage, rather than ignore, him here.
that's my fear too
like I got this "soul read" last game where I just got a feeling he was wolfing even though nobody else thought so
and it was right
and i got that same feeling again this game
like his responses to my questioning seems fine
but his initial stuff before I questioned seemed off
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11-15-2012 , 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by tweedybirdd
the fact that vmf is voting binkles doesn't bode well, since I doubt vmf is voting him for WW reasons
I feel like vmf tries to be more of a sweetheart as a wolf, so I think his vote was ok.

Him placing that vote while I was writing my case doesn't factor in to that read btw.
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11-15-2012 , 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Silman
here's the thing though
binkles is making me uneasy
he made me feel uneasy last game as wolf and I said so and he was wolf
but there's nothing I can point to and say it's wolfy
like there is some hedging of bets and some cases that don't make sense
but those are meh reads at best
that said I don't like the dwetzel or monte votes
Generally this is how I feel when I think bankles is wolfing. It's difficult to point to something wolfy; it's usually the absence of overly villagery posts or being on a different wavelength than me (wrt people's roles).

Problem is it's ridiculously easy for a wolf to defend a binkles vote in any game because all you need to say is "something feels off about him".
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11-15-2012 , 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Outed Wolf
i'm a fellow pam fan
i think he is a villager yes
and i think zdye's vote was wolfy

we shall see
I'd rather talk about it now than "see"
what made you think he's a villager
what do you think about monte (specifically his early page1 stuff that binkles says is a tmi slip)
what do you think about zyde's point about him buttering me up?
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11-15-2012 , 04:46 AM
So I just remembered that Muse has some really solid material, despite Matt Bellamy being a total tool bag.
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11-15-2012 , 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by tweedybirdd
Generally this is how I feel when I think bankles is wolfing. It's difficult to point to something wolfy; it's usually the absence of overly villagery posts or being on a different wavelength than me (wrt people's roles).

Problem is it's ridiculously easy for a wolf to defend a binkles vote in any game because all you need to say is "something feels off about him".
Which is why I actually took the time to say what specifically bothered me.

Apparently that makes me wolfy according to hurp.

Anyway, catch you guys in the morning.
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11-15-2012 , 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by tweedybirdd
Generally this is how I feel when I think bankles is wolfing. It's difficult to point to something wolfy; it's usually the absence of overly villagery posts or being on a different wavelength than me (wrt people's roles).

Problem is it's ridiculously easy for a wolf to defend a binkles vote in any game because all you need to say is "something feels off about him".
^ this

everyone seems to have an opinion about him though, so seems like a good thing to talk about at least
what do you think about zyde's points?
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11-15-2012 , 04:49 AM
Silman what do you think of Dwetzel essentially ignoring pressure?

On re-read, his 1 post is terrible and the rest of his posts are objectively villagery (from a gimmicky perspective), especially for someone without a ton of experience
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11-15-2012 , 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by tweedybirdd
So I just remembered that Muse has some really solid material, despite Matt Bellamy being a total tool bag.
First four albums are elite, no question about it. The percentage of awesome songs across that stretch is around 80 imo.

I think I'll fall asleep to origin of symmetry now.
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11-15-2012 , 04:52 AM
I generally try to withold judgment wrt zdye until later, unless something in particular jumps out me
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11-15-2012 , 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by tweedybirdd
Silman what do you think of Dwetzel essentially ignoring pressure?

On re-read, his 1 post is terrible and the rest of his posts are objectively villagery (from a gimmicky perspective), especially for someone without a ton of experience
firstly I didn't think his first post was that bad
i don't know his meta that he's shattering though
but opening with a joke vote doesn't seem wolfy at all
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unless he later tries to build his joke vote into a case


he kinda responded to forsy, then so far as I could tell it was just a bunch of sponging and no real follow-up heat
there's not much to say about someone tone reading you woof from one post
and I felt like his other posts were carefree, esp since he had votes
like imo that's more clearing than if he had gone into defend-himself mode
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11-15-2012 , 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by zdye724
First four albums are elite, no question about it. The percentage of awesome songs across that stretch is around 80 imo.

I think I'll fall asleep to origin of symmetry now.
absolution and origin of symmetry are so goddamn elite

For some reason I enjoy their poorly crafted songs like The Small Print and Plug-in Baby, moreso than I do with most bands, which I think is a reflection of how talented Bellamy is.

Spoiler:
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11-15-2012 , 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Silman
firstly I didn't think his first post was that bad
i don't know his meta that he's shattering though
but opening with a joke vote doesn't seem wolfy at all
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unless he later tries to build his joke vote into a case


he kinda responded to forsy, then so far as I could tell it was just a bunch of sponging and no real follow-up heat
there's not much to say about someone tone reading you woof from one post
and I felt like his other posts were carefree, esp since he had votes
like imo that's more clearing than if he had gone into defend-himself mode
Yeah I mean when someone picks apart how craft a post or basically tells you that you're awkward, there's not a whole lot to say in response. So I suppose I should be giving him more slack. I got a bit caught up with people not dealing with him because I felt he was perhaps a more important topic than he actually should be
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11-15-2012 , 05:05 AM
lol shroopaments
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11-15-2012 , 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by zdye724
Meh.

I think your case on monte is thin. He is one of the more eloquent players in the game, and people like that craft posts regardless of affiliation.

I also think you moving tweedy to the top of your villager list right after he calls you a wolf is sketchy. A villager (which tweedy probably is), will get that warm and fuzzy feeling about being correctly identified and be less likely to push you much harder.

And I get the feeling you're buttering up Silman. I was going to call him a wolf right around the same time you put him 2nd on your villager list. Silman had a string of villagery posts and inquiries right after that, so I'm backing off that initial gut read. However, finding him so villagery when you did is not how I'm seeing things.

So I feel inclined to vote for you, binkles.
So first you say it's a turbo environment and so posts are going to be coming hard and heavy and thing

And now you're pushing the "he's eloquent and going to construct his posts" angle, those things don't mesh

and your second thing is false btw, Montecore has spoken numerous times about being less eloquent and more 'in the flow' the more he plays ww

you've completed ignored my point about slighted and instead tried to find something else to call me wolfy for

that list was unordered, and more importantly what do YOU think about Tweedy? Would I try and deflect heat by calling him a villager as a wolf? Maybe. Would I share my read on him as a villager? Of course I would.

I would butter up Silman in every role imaginable as he is my mason br0 <3

And now as you constructed this entire post to attempt to fit your narrative of me being a wolf without considering how these things could easily happen as a villager, and in fact how imo it's pretty natural to do so, I shall be voting you, zdye

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Originally Posted by tweedybirdd
mmk so holdem, forsy, and kruze are my strongest villa leans atm

I'm not sure if binkles is my strongest wolf lean anymore, but I want to keep pressure on him. I have a cluster **** of wolf reads that could be blown up depending on what monte and dwetzel flip.
How is keeping pressure on me going to help you determine my role, out of interest?

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Originally Posted by Silman
I'm listening to you.
and I agree about the monte thing
the thing about the buttering up thing is i keep wanting to say "nah this is just like what he did last game"
but last game we were v/w
and we haven't played together (I haven't played) in ages before that
I didn't feel buttery though
I disagree with the tweedy thing. I feel like a wolf would do more than just put him on the villager list
would make more of a song and dance about it or something
Except I was essentially playing like a villager while you were alive aside from a few small things here and there.

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Originally Posted by tweedybirdd
Generally this is how I feel when I think bankles is wolfing. It's difficult to point to something wolfy; it's usually the absence of overly villagery posts or being on a different wavelength than me (wrt people's roles).

Problem is it's ridiculously easy for a wolf to defend a binkles vote in any game because all you need to say is "something feels off about him".
So you're pressuring me because...?
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11-15-2012 , 05:09 AM
what was it meant to say?
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11-15-2012 , 05:10 AM
I mean, my last three village games I've either been vigged by the village vig or mislynched, each time with no accountability, so pressuring me for the sake of pressuring me seems pretty aids imo
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11-15-2012 , 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by captain binkles
So first you say it's a turbo environment and so posts are going to be coming hard and heavy and thing

And now you're pushing the "he's eloquent and going to construct his posts" angle, those things don't mesh

and your second thing is false btw, Montecore has spoken numerous times about being less eloquent and more 'in the flow' the more he plays ww

you've completed ignored my point about slighted and instead tried to find something else to call me wolfy for

that list was unordered, and more importantly what do YOU think about Tweedy? Would I try and deflect heat by calling him a villager as a wolf? Maybe. Would I share my read on him as a villager? Of course I would.

I would butter up Silman in every role imaginable as he is my mason br0 <3

And now as you constructed this entire post to attempt to fit your narrative of me being a wolf without considering how these things could easily happen as a villager, and in fact how imo it's pretty natural to do so, I shall be voting you, zdye



How is keeping pressure on me going to help you determine my role, out of interest?



Except I was essentially playing like a villager while you were alive aside from a few small things here and there.



So you're pressuring me because...?
okay this is super villagery
sorry binklebr0
you know I <3 you
but I'm not going to clear you for free like I do for Jim
you gotta earn it
this is a good start
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11-15-2012 , 05:12 AM
Because when you don't have heat bankles, people sponge you a ton and you have a ridiculous amount of influence. When you have heat, people don't treat your reads as gospel.

I want you to earn the title of thread captain
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11-15-2012 , 05:13 AM
vmf
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11-15-2012 , 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Silman
okay this is super villagery
sorry binklebr0
you know I <3 you
but I'm not going to clear you for free like I do for Jim
you gotta earn it
this is a good start
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Originally Posted by tweedybirdd
Because when you don't have heat bankles, people sponge you a ton and you have a ridiculous amount of influence. When you have heat, people don't treat your reads as gospel.

I want you to earn the title of thread captain
hivemind
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