i will say one more time and probably emphasize before eod:

ANGEL,

until otherwise noted, if you CAN angel Silman, you SHOULD angel Silman

OK what the holy **** lk. When I don't post reads I'm Wolfy for not posting. When I make a read and stick with it I'm Wolfy because I was "confident" (confident here meaning I didn't randomly jump my vote around after there was a case on okse he never bothered to fight). Why the **** do you keep trying to call me a wolf no matter what I do.

And that Boo bull**** needs to stop. He never even linked the post he accused me of making. He's full of ****.

Nice analysis, loose. Villa points to you.

And KruZe is still a jester, if anyone doesn't have him on ignore at this point. Slight possibility he's a wolf overplaying the twtbaw card to see how far he can go with it. He's not a villager.

Tanner being right on euro and okse makes me give him villa points, not wolf points.

TN hasn't been overtly villagery or overtly wolfy.

Boo is still >>rand wolf.

okay, so i actually did go back a few pages to see what you were talking about. this is all the talk about ct. i want to know where you hurp spewed yourself clear & this is what you send me back to see?

what 30 posts are to talking about? i went back 200 posts

i'm not trying to be hardheaded, i just don't know what you are talking about.

i think it follows a logical progression if you're wolfing. new wolves are scared of two things: 1. to slip up in their posting 2. to be WRONG about things.

it's naturally counter intuitive but villagers are super wrong about things a lot. and they're far more hesitant in their postings. okse was a GOOD wagon yesterday. but he was not a great wagon. he may not even have been as good a wagon as wiper was when he got modkilled. your insistence that okse was a wolf is not wolfy in its result. it's wolfy in the way it was presented. i've seen it done that way with new wolves several times. i did it myself as a new wolf. it's pinged my interest. if nobody supports it i obv have no leg to stand on. but i do think you're a wolf. i still like you though.

oh, and the overly angry response is wolfing under pressure 101. go read my pony+ game that finished last week. i did the exact same thing.

if tanner DOES flip wolf boo is never a wolf by the way.

although now that i look at that progression, outted wolf votes you twice and i think that looks kinda bad.

you think villa tanner mentions how certain he is that okse is a wolf 10 times? wayyyy tmi.

i forgot that boo tends to wolf without the rest of the team. strike that last conditional from the record.

@tn: the last post of last night after "it is night"

Combined with my explanation which you quoted

its ok i know you need your morning coffee

EXPLAIN

will be back later when i'm less hung over...

boo especially wouldn't wolf with a team that includes both euroa and binkles. the lols in just thinking about that are awesome. so if boo is a wolf he's on his own.

here binkles made a =rand post and not at all a reflex of his game (cause he was just really talking about how he makes reads) and variance goes super aggressively against him with the 'bla bla bla' and vote. that's what I said yesterday struck me as kinda forced/ w/w but I didn't feel it was worth anything because I haven't read binkles at that point and I was maybe already tunneling vmf and making stupid conditional reads wrt his role, but now that we know binkles was a wolf this looks slightly damming for variance. I mean first of all, the post wasn't really wolfy, was it? it has a lazy free flowy tone to it. I always have a hard time clearing people that don't see what I'm seeing, and this is basically what variance's vote strucks me with. he is spotting wolfiness in binkles when I don't see how that's really possible with his posts. the 'bla bla bla' part is very forced and sounds like variance's SOD wolfy version. it also makes sense for variance to 'hide' himself with an early vote on a wolf both to avoid getting tdomed and look good when/if binkles flips. wolves usually don't think like that (i'm gonna make these early posts to create separation from my wolfbro) but unconsciously it's probably much easier to pile on your wolfbro early for BS reasons than to pile on a villager.

this is outed after zdye post (who I'm hardclearing considering his interaction with binkles) voting binkles. the zdye post is actually pretty good and not really awkward, so Outed's defense sounds a little weird to me. it's also worth noting that Outed somehow felt inclined to make that post, not really pushing zdye and not showing off a suspicious mindset. so some wolf points here.

very unlikely w/w

lol OMG this is such a ridiculous vote. silman done 0 wolfy things that far in the game, it's such a senseless unflowy vote to make. mehhh hope I'm not blindly tunneling here but the wolfy stuff I spotted came basically from vmf and boo who I thought were woalves yesterday.

lol i stopped reading after "it is night"

lemme go look

I mean, I see what you're saying and there's a lot of logic and truth behind it

I'm not sure that he would bus the wolf vig and the wolf seer like that, though

nah BAIDS was AIDS, so this is kinda wolfy imo

this spews you clear?

i must need coffee cause i still don't see it

but i'll look at it again later

i didn't notice anything egregiously w/w about tanner/euro. can you point me toward that? if he was soft pushing in weird interactions with euro it might tunnel me into thinking he's even more likely a wolf so i'd like to see your take on it.

i'm standing by the okse thing. a seer on d2 isn't exactly something the wolves are super careful about protecting. especially one getting a lot of heat.

i mean, i get that you posted at 8:01 & level 1, you are saying you'd never risk night posting as a wolf

but i don't think it holds all that much merit

he'd already been cleared relatively hard-ish by a number of posters the night before; he was probably one of the wolves they expected to go deep-ish.

it's not damning by any stretch but it needs to be considered

Hardcore has a great point about variance's post. I think Variance is >>rand wolf.

Btw, league sources tell me that hardcore and either monik or Effen is in the running for MVV, now that LKJ has been sidelined

outted wolf

has the most sketchy votes & posts (aside from kruze)

i'm off to soccer

oh yeah - VMF wagon good today too