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11-19-2012 , 11:42 AM
wait wait wait

so richard busses his team mates early but you're clearing vmf because he wouldn't bus vmf at EOD when that's 100 times more clearing.
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11-19-2012 , 11:45 AM
silman, why do you think richard would just make a lot of sense in his bussing activities? i really feel he is a wolf, and I'm not married to this read but I really really feel that, and I don't see what you're seeing here.

he didn't pop in to vote btw. he was around. he voted at :00 for a wolf over a villager, that's cool. but it was :00 and there were two votes between the wagons.
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11-19-2012 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Silman
imo those sort of popin votes are actually super villagery
like you get heat for it every time
but unless it's to snipe a villager over a wolf in close wagons (in which case it's mostly the voting the villager over the wolf that is the wolfy part) it's the sort of thing that a villager will do because he cares about the result of the lynch
but a wolf who is just trying to look good would basically never do
not with v/v
not with w/w
and if he's doing it with v/w wagons he's voting the villa
because if he was doing it for bussing reasons he would just push the wolf all day and make a big song and dance about it to make sure he gets credit
like last game in mlp I did the same thing
I got huge amounts of heat for it
but like it's something people call wolfy because they sniping "feels" wolfy
not because it's something that wolves do more than villagers
master did it in mlp twice. he was a wolf.
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11-19-2012 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO
silman, why do you think richard would just make a lot of sense in his bussing activities? i really feel he is a wolf, and I'm not married to this read but I really really feel that, and I don't see what you're seeing here.

he didn't pop in to vote btw. he was around. he voted at :00 for a wolf over a villager, that's cool. but it was :00 and there were two votes between the wagons.
say what? he hadn't posted for 90 minutes! tmi?
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11-19-2012 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO
silman, why do you think richard would just make a lot of sense in his bussing activities? i really feel he is a wolf, and I'm not married to this read but I really really feel that, and I don't see what you're seeing here.

he didn't pop in to vote btw. he was around. he voted at :00 for a wolf over a villager, that's cool. but it was :00 and there were two votes between the wagons.
I'll reread the eod (I wasn't there for it, just skimmed it)
brb
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11-19-2012 , 11:48 AM
two village vigs is just a ridiculous amount of villa killing power btw. it makes me believe there is no neutral team and the suicide thing is just a wolf role. no way the village has equal killing power with the wolves.
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11-19-2012 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by loosekanen
two village vigs is just a ridiculous amount of villa killing power btw. it makes me believe there is no neutral team and the suicide thing is just a wolf role. no way the village has equal killing power with the wolves.
nevermind. they killed forsy. that's a bad thought. i'm all over the place this morning.
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11-19-2012 , 11:49 AM
well then we've run horribly bad. all our PRs were outed/dead by the end of n3. hilariously bad.
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11-19-2012 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by loosekanen
say what? he hadn't posted for 90 minutes! tmi?
+ "he voted for a wolf"

but it might be that vmf is outed for hardcoreUFO also
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11-19-2012 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Silman
I'll reread the eod (I wasn't there for it, just skimmed it)
brb
lol I read eod and I thought richard was around at eod. he wasn't, loose is right, I'm wrong.

they can still be v/v and loose's EOD voting wasn't villagery. like the guy only appears at :00 to vote someone and that was it, really weird. why wasn't he posting? that actually makes me even more confident in my read.
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11-19-2012 , 11:51 AM
*they can still be w/w

god I need some sleep...
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11-19-2012 , 11:53 AM
ok ill start with effen since hes my strongest wolf out of effen/accobra

the caveat with finding wolfy posts in accobra is that in the cinematic mishmash he was so OBVIOUSLY wolfy, yet he flipped villa
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11-19-2012 , 11:54 AM
*and richard's voting wasn't villagery.*

like.

i'll stop posting now.

bye.
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11-19-2012 , 11:56 AM
but vote variance. 4/4 variance/dwetzel/tchaz/richard maybe. one time.

also boo/kruze may be w/w also.

good night, gonna get some sleep
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11-19-2012 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard Tanner
Vagos?? No.
Night in 2:30
richard tanner's last post before the vmf vote


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Originally Posted by looshle
Votes as of post 7131
Night in 00:14

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VotesLynchVoters
6 XXsooted Boo Radley (218), darO (14), DWetzel (44), Effen (30), Gadarene (254), zdye724 (134)
5 Boo Radley Ashington (76), confirmedtroll (59), Richard Tanner (55), tchaz (27), VarianceMinefield (70)
5 VarianceMinefield accobra_kid (33), BJLTNYK (33), HardcoreUFO (99), Hold'em 07 (94), TheNothing (92)
4 Richard Tanner Bryant Reeves (195), loosekanen (127), Vagos (69), XXsooted (28)
2 Gadarene KruZe (116), vyk07 (12)
1 BJLTNYK Silman (30)
0 not voting
is on boo
:00 good :01 bad
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Originally Posted by looshle
Votes as of post 7196
Night in 00:06

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VotesLynchVoters
8 VarianceMinefield accobra_kid (33), Ashington (80), BJLTNYK (37), Bryant Reeves (201), HardcoreUFO (103), Hold'em 07 (103), tchaz (30), Vagos (70)
8 XXsooted Boo Radley (221), darO (14), DWetzel (45), Effen (34), Gadarene (256), loosekanen (129), TheNothing (97), zdye724 (136)
4 Boo Radley confirmedtroll (59), KruZe (120), Richard Tanner (55), VarianceMinefield (76)
1 BJLTNYK Silman (30)
1 Gadarene vyk07 (12)
1 Richard Tanner XXsooted (30)
0 not voting

:00 good :01 bad
8-8
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Originally Posted by looshle
Votes as of post 7225
Night in 00:03

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VotesLynchVoters
9 XXsooted Ashington (81), Boo Radley (222), darO (14), DWetzel (45), Effen (35), Gadarene (258), loosekanen (132), TheNothing (97), zdye724 (138)
8 VarianceMinefield accobra_kid (34), BJLTNYK (40), Bryant Reeves (203), HardcoreUFO (104), Hold'em 07 (105), KruZe (123), tchaz (31), Vagos (71)
3 Boo Radley confirmedtroll (59), Richard Tanner (55), VarianceMinefield (79)
1 BJLTNYK Silman (30)
1 Gadarene vyk07 (12)
1 Richard Tanner XXsooted (31)
0 not voting

:00 good :01 bad
9-8


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Originally Posted by looshle
Votes as of post 7240
Night in 00:01

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VotesLynchVoters
9 VarianceMinefield accobra_kid (34), BJLTNYK (40), Bryant Reeves (203), HardcoreUFO (104), Hold'em 07 (105), KruZe (125), tchaz (31), Vagos (71), XXsooted (34)
9 XXsooted Ashington (81), Boo Radley (223), darO (14), DWetzel (46), Effen (36), Gadarene (259), loosekanen (134), TheNothing (97), zdye724 (138)
3 Boo Radley confirmedtroll (59), Richard Tanner (55), VarianceMinefield (81)
1 BJLTNYK Silman (30)
1 Gadarene vyk07 (12)
0 not voting

:00 good :01 bad
9-9
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Originally Posted by looshle
Votes as of post 7245
Night in 00:00

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VotesLynchVoters
10 XXsooted Ashington (81), Boo Radley (223), darO (14), DWetzel (46), Effen (36), Gadarene (260), KruZe (126), loosekanen (134), TheNothing (97), zdye724 (138)
8 VarianceMinefield accobra_kid (34), BJLTNYK (40), Bryant Reeves (204), HardcoreUFO (104), Hold'em 07 (105), tchaz (31), Vagos (71), XXsooted (34)
3 Boo Radley confirmedtroll (59), Richard Tanner (55), VarianceMinefield (82)
1 BJLTNYK Silman (30)
1 Gadarene vyk07 (12)
0 not voting

:00 good :01 bad
good chance this is a xpost
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Originally Posted by Richard Tanner
VMF
very good chance he thought he was making the deciding vote on vmf here
and he hasn't posted in 2.5 hours
so how do you know he was around?
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11-19-2012 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO
but vote variance. 4/4 variance/dwetzel/tchaz/richard maybe. one time.

also boo/kruze may be w/w also.

good night, gonna get some sleep
goodnight
we can figure out richard later
like I'm not lock certain or anything
but I'd be very surprised if he's a wolf
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11-19-2012 , 12:03 PM
vmf

i'm sold on that case. if he flips villager though we HAVE to lynch richard the next day.
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11-19-2012 , 12:05 PM
cliffs at the end since my grammar is probably terrible and im losing myself in the middle


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Originally Posted by Effen
ugh well you kinda gotta use your shot Vagos

I like a list of ~3 targets including CDL and sniping one 5 mins before EOD to get better info on the CDL wagon. Thoughts?
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Originally Posted by Effen
wat? I've been saying CDL is a bad vote since the beginning

you suck, read the thread less
i think there is a contradiction here.


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Originally Posted by Effen
back for a change before gym, will prob be back before EOD

useless tone/gut reads (though I was totally right lurking the buffy game on shark and insanity):
villas:
shark
ash
vagos

wolves:
tehnothing
confirmedtroll
moni

kruze:
kruze
someone mentioned a rule of three thing before?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Effen
I loved tweedy's EOD yesterday.

I thunderingly hate binkles right now. That insanity being 4th best thing and then the rundown of the playerbase struck me so, so, so wrong. I don't think he asshats like that as a villager.

vyk's beginning of today seemed really forced and almost annoying but after a while I started getting good vibes off of it, not sure what to make of that.
this is the first post of day 2.
he suddenly THUNDERINGLY HATES binkles...

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Originally Posted by Effen
why is everyone flying on euro his MQ against okse seems decently solid
meh
im not experienced enough to understand how it worked at d2 but it went from
: euro looks goods because euro pointed out okse wolf
to i read euro villa
to well they might be w/w
to again euro looks good (before vyk's peek)
to never mentioning okse again when euro flipped wolf

which is weird. he also never mentioned binkles again in d2 until ash revealed the peek. he was basically trying to create confusion on EOD2.
Furthermore i think he was trying to get some credit if euro/okse flipped both wolves but the lack of mentioning okse afterwards when vagons needed to be reconstructed is really damning

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Originally Posted by Effen
boo I wanted to give you credit for prodding but we're just going in circles here. I hoped there was more

zdye is like 8th down the list on people I'd lynch why did he suddenly come up for discussion.
you never gave any list. he justified this post as a joke. day 3 is entirely fluff actually, the vast majority of posts was one liners


Quote:
Originally Posted by Effen
posting reads, not being afraid or feeling forced to defend myself on any small accusation of wolfyness

you can help yourself a great deal with something other than "someone else read binkles for spew"

help me help you
you did not post reads at all imo.

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Originally Posted by Ashington
And why are we letting Kruze live again?
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Originally Posted by Effen
I tried
he never actually tried.

CLIFFS:
i think effen looks sketchy/is a wolf for the following reasons:
-start day 2 by hating binkles, never goes on on that until after ash reveals.
-tries to takes some accountability by mentioning euro/okse possibly w/w while actually defending euro, and never pushing okse54 when euro flipped wolf
-making many innacurate statements + creating confusion in the short amount of posts he has.
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11-19-2012 , 12:05 PM
i think we'll likely find wolves who were eager to jump on vyk's tunnel of gad.
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11-19-2012 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by confirmedtroll
cliffs at the end since my grammar is probably terrible and im losing myself in the middle






i think there is a contradiction here.




someone mentioned a rule of three thing before?




this is the first post of day 2.
he suddenly THUNDERINGLY HATES binkles...



meh
im not experienced enough to understand how it worked at d2 but it went from
: euro looks goods because euro pointed out okse wolf
to i read euro villa
to well they might be w/w
to again euro looks good (before vyk's peek)
to never mentioning okse again when euro flipped wolf

which is weird. he also never mentioned binkles again in d2 until ash revealed the peek. he was basically trying to create confusion on EOD2.
Furthermore i think he was trying to get some credit if euro/okse flipped both wolves but the lack of mentioning okse afterwards when vagons needed to be reconstructed is really damning



you never gave any list. he justified this post as a joke. day 3 is entirely fluff actually, the vast majority of posts was one liners




you did not post reads at all imo.





he never actually tried.

CLIFFS:
i think effen looks sketchy/is a wolf for the following reasons:
-start day 2 by hating binkles, never goes on on that until after ash reveals.
-tries to takes some accountability by mentioning euro/okse possibly w/w while actually defending euro, and never pushing okse54 when euro flipped wolf
-making many innacurate statements + creating confusion in the short amount of posts he has.
excellent find with his first d2 post since the tripwire knew binkles had been peeked. i had effen as wolfy most the game until doing some good things yesterday and this is something i missed.

vmf/effen/tanner/bj... not awful
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11-19-2012 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Tanner
D1 of tchaz:



Intro post. Shows up late and gives a read list that looks about random.



A few more reads but really noncommittal. Claiming to be catching up.



In response to a Gad vote of him (although Gad quickly moves on to Vyk)



Doesn't want to read, would rather read a random page and then...nothing really. He's just sooooo lost.



Yep, doesn't want to not vote, so why not throw a vote up there on the consensus wagon. I get why you may want to vote here but that post reads horribly.



Throws some quick reads up prior to Eod. Again, mixed results here. If he flips wolf, I like my Loose=Wolf (really it's Loose=Non-villa but I'll claim I'm right either way) read even more.
is this the super wolfy mq
because it doesn't seem that bad to me?
the red is lol (the non-villa thing)
but like he's claiming you can get a possible neutral read from wolf spew
that seems like the sort of thing a new player who has never been wolf before might think
rather than an angleshooty levelling game that a first time wolf would somehow do?
that said I'm not actually sure how he gets that spew either?
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11-19-2012 , 12:13 PM
***DEAD***

yup yup yup

I have a lot I want to say, but I'll wait for postgame

Go villa, for the love of God

***DEAD***
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11-19-2012 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by confirmedtroll
cliffs at the end since my grammar is probably terrible and im losing myself in the middle






i think there is a contradiction here.




someone mentioned a rule of three thing before?




this is the first post of day 2.
he suddenly THUNDERINGLY HATES binkles...



meh
im not experienced enough to understand how it worked at d2 but it went from
: euro looks goods because euro pointed out okse wolf
to i read euro villa
to well they might be w/w
to again euro looks good (before vyk's peek)
to never mentioning okse again when euro flipped wolf

which is weird. he also never mentioned binkles again in d2 until ash revealed the peek. he was basically trying to create confusion on EOD2.
Furthermore i think he was trying to get some credit if euro/okse flipped both wolves but the lack of mentioning okse afterwards when vagons needed to be reconstructed is really damning



you never gave any list. he justified this post as a joke. day 3 is entirely fluff actually, the vast majority of posts was one liners




you did not post reads at all imo.





he never actually tried.

CLIFFS:
i think effen looks sketchy/is a wolf for the following reasons:
-start day 2 by hating binkles, never goes on on that until after ash reveals.
-tries to takes some accountability by mentioning euro/okse possibly w/w while actually defending euro, and never pushing okse54 when euro flipped wolf
-making many innacurate statements + creating confusion in the short amount of posts he has.
I like this.
esp the binkles thing
wolves would've been wanting to bus binkles
but that would be too obvious
so they try and distance as much as possible from him because they know he's going down
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11-19-2012 , 12:27 PM
effen
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11-19-2012 , 12:31 PM
i dont have as much on accobra if we discount the overall wolfyness of his timing/being UTR/tone.

something with respect to accobra/okse54
some wolves were shown to be bussing okse (at least euro, binkles). for balance i guess there has to be a wolf "defender" of okse.

day1:
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Originally Posted by accobra_kid
okse54 has made only 17 posts that were very brief, low content, and concentrated a couple of very short time periods. Check them out.

I've seen him do very good villager work before, and when he does, he typically puts in much more effort than he has today. I'm tempted to give him a pass until tomorrow, but if it's another low effort day I will reconsider.
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Originally Posted by accobra_kid
Upon re-read, Slighted does seem like a pretty good target.

Is he even here to defend himself though? No posts in last hour.
(thats it on mentioning slighted in this game)

day 2

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Originally Posted by accobra_kid
okse54 has already done more work today than he did yesterday after he got called out on it.
loves okse54
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Originally Posted by accobra_kid
Cool. Glad to have you back, I got a real good vibe from you when we villaged together in RO3K.
loves okse54

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Originally Posted by accobra_kid
Now that Eurotrash is gone, we need new wagons. I propose confirmedtroll.
[CUT]
confirmedtroll
proposes an alternative wagon in the big moment of confusion at EOD2

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Originally Posted by accobra_kid
I also think okse54 is a fine vote, but I prefer confirmedtroll until he comes back here and answers for himself.

okse54 mailed it in yesterday, claimed work. Posted feverishly during a couple of periods today. General feeling is that this is not villager okse54, he's certainly capable of doing strong work.

Beware though, his post at 3:10pm said he's gone for the day. So if you're voting him out, beware that he's likely not going to come back in the next half hour.
NO YOU DONT. what is that?

i actually cannot find much more on accobra so far, he has so few real content posts.
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