wolf suspect #2: tchaz
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Originally Posted by tchaz
Got here a short while ago - 1 hr?
I read ~5pp and posted some impressions. Then tried reading the current end of the thread, but there's not much talk at the moment about details of what's gone on. Apparently asking for information (or possible noun-verbing) is wolfy in Gad's books.
I'm now reading a random page in the middle (16 fwiw) to see if that helps - probably has too much information, if anything, to make things clearer.
ok so here is the thing: tchaz comes super late ITT, tries reading some stuff, it's getting near EOD and he is finally posting. my first thought is that the phrasing was awkward enough to be wolfy, but this is a mishmash. dude appears late in the game, he is not experienced playing werewolf, it's really hard to figure things out, right? he is reading a random page in the thread... sounds kinda absurd. anyway he is trying to pick up on the game. that's neutral.
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Originally Posted by tchaz
LKJ, forsy, Ash, Loose (also Shark and Kruze)
ok this is the progression: tchaz goes 'my villa leans are voting slighted and so will I weeee', then monte asks 'what are your leans?' and he goes this. why is he putting shark and kruze in parenthesis is a mystery. also how can a new-ish player that probably doesn't know kruze's meta has him as a villager? kruze is anything but a villagery guy. this sounds a little fishy.
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Originally Posted by tchaz
Lynching me would be bad because I'm a villager.
I only managed to read about half the thread y'day and saw that Loosek was only around for a short time. But my impression of what he did contribute was villa-y and he did say he was not going to be around.
I was somewhat skeptical of Gad for making a flimsy (and false) case on me last night. I remember him t-doming with thedean as a wolf on d1 of ForumWW a couple of months ago and constructing a slew of such cases.
So I looked over his posts after night. His pushes (afaics) were CDL (later back-tracked), Boo, vyk and me (and okse with less detail). But CDL and Boo don't seem bad to me. That just left vyk. I, frankly, didn't see any real arguments, just lots of am/aren't/am/aren't, for the pushing of vyk, but I can be missing something.
I did catch up on his having talked with Euro about the supposed premise for pushing me last night - arriving late & asking for into being a wolf tell - much earlier in the day. I'm torn as to whether that is a wolf foreshadowing to be able to frame utr late arriving non-wolves or whether he really thinks that's a tell.
However the rest of his interactions look ok to me.
So, my conclusion is I'm wary of Gad, but not as much as I thought I might be.
this is villagery, though. tchaz sounds very free flowy and apparently he did re-read gad which is a good thing. wondering if the rest of euro interactions were actually read by tchaz or if he is just making that read up, though. I'm inclined to say the second one is more likely (if he did re-read euro he would have much more to say about him, right? oh well maybe this post isn't villagery at all just because of this detail)
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Originally Posted by tchaz
I'm going to be around today for most of the day, but somewhat on and off (irl stuff). So no building cases on lack of insta responses please.
Unfortunately some of my villa read got done away with in the night. I did pick up a few more leans overnight. (No strong wolf leans.) In no particular order:
villas
BJL, dar0, maybe silman , to add to Forsy, Ash, Kruze and Loosek
+s and -s
TN - i liked her take on CDL's reaction rather than Kruze's peek, didn't like her jumping on my wagon
Gad - talked about him in my prev
Boo-ing
Boo
not particularly happy with
binkles, hold'em, tweedy, maybe moni
'maybe' not particularly happy with moni. hmmmm. got nothing to say really, this means something but I don't know what it is.
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Originally Posted by tchaz
I haven't strong antipathies to any of the top 4 candidates. If I had to chose one right now I'ld go for CT, but I'm hoping to have more information.
In the mean time I'm going to park on one of the ppl in my suspicious list. binkles
ohhh boy is this awkward.
ok this is not flowing naturally... on the first day tchaz was 'not happy' with binkles, but apparently he wasn't happy with a bunch of people. he didn't come back to this read afterwards nor he tried re-reading binkles. it's like he doesn't really care about binkles' role this game. comes the day binkles was peeked, tchaz appears with the vote and saying again he isn't 'happy' with binkles. that read seems to come from nowhere, basically. like he read maybe the first five pages of binkles and then appears on d2 voting him. why was he voting binkles? in what phase of the game did tchaz solidified his wolf read on binkles and decided to push him? he re-reads euro, he re-reads gad... but apparently he doesn't re-read his top wolf read? or makes a case for why he thinks his wolf read is a wolf?
I'm getting more skeptical about this because wolves knew binkles was peeked. a newbie wolf would totally fall for that easy wolftrap and try bussing his teammate when he is just going down anyway.
there's also like... defending variance for 'being villagery', where did that come from? there's also the fact that he is the biggest utr player this game. none of this posts are really good, there is one or two villagery things out there and a bunch of really really senseless wolfy ones.
I wouldn't put him as a big wolf lean as dwetzel but he is a solid lynch over the next few days IMO.
updated reads:
loosekanen
tchaz
dwetzel
variance