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11-17-2012 , 11:10 PM
that said actually I can probably do a few hours after work before sleep before morework
so I guess I'll see you in 10hrs or so
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11-17-2012 , 11:10 PM
Go Grizz

Go Ash
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11-17-2012 , 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO
wow, no you're not. at all.
ok, explain then
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11-17-2012 , 11:12 PM
vmf
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11-17-2012 , 11:13 PM
*** Event Update ***


Current Leader

Ashington 2

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Remaining Games


Outed Wolf = Hornets +8, OU = 107
TheNothing = Hornets +8, OU = 200


Boo = Spurs -6.5 OU = 200
zdye = Spurs -6.5, OU = 200
Kruze = spurs -6.5, OU = 203


Bryant = Clippers -6, OU = 190
Loosekanen = Clippers -6, OU = 193
tchaz = Clippers -6, OU = 196
Holdem= Clippers -6, OU = 198
monikrazy = Bulls +6, OU = 182
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11-17-2012 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Bryant Reeves
ok, explain then
you're playing a completely different game here. anyone who played with you before knows this is just not how you post at all lol. there isn't anything to explain really. I was actually thinking both you and hurp were posting differently to avoid people recognizing you.
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11-17-2012 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bryant Reeves
tchaz: why the dramatic change in playing style here?
Do you really think so? It feels pretty similar to me, although I haven't been back and re-read it. I wrote the below before this, but: what do you think is different?

Spoiler:

I think the only difference is that I knew on d1 this time that I would be travelling most of the day and probably was unlikely to be able to read everything before EOD - and as I said in the post from that game that Tweedy quoted I didn 't find skimming at all useful then - so d1 I pretty conciously tried to read what I could getting without worrying about trying to get all the available info. As I said explaining my reads i was probably going along looking for discordances (bad for people imo) and people who picked up on discordances (or the same ones as me) (good for them imo).

As far as I remember I think today and yesterday I've been pretty similar to the other game. Low number of relatively lengthy posts, with some attempted analysis. Interacting when I'm here and people interact with me.

The only thing (again as I remember) that might be an obvious difference is that I knew TheDean1 was lying about other stuff when he was pushing me (I'ld caught slips), not so with gad this game on d1. So that's apples and oranges.
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11-17-2012 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Silman
vmf
yay vmf wagon

variance

gotta do some other ****, bbl
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11-17-2012 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO
wow, no you're not. at all.

@zdye: that depends on how clear/unclear the remaining wolves are. if they don't have a few cleared lategame wolves they'll bus themselves since some of them are already POE'd. like outed pushing vmf kinda makes sense when they're both vig and lynch priorities for the village.
Like, say, a moni who looks "golden" from spew?
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11-17-2012 , 11:15 PM
wat does the -6.5 mean next to my gamb0l
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11-17-2012 , 11:15 PM
vmf
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11-17-2012 , 11:18 PM
Votes as of post 5736
Night in 22:43

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VotesLynchVoters
5 VarianceMinefield Bryant Reeves (56), HardcoreUFO (51), KruZe (37), Monikrazy (71), Silman (3)
3 Boo Radley Richard Tanner (30), tchaz (11), Vagos (18)
2 Gadarene BJLTNYK (12), vyk07 (11)
2 HardcoreUFO Outed Wolf (93), XXsooted (8)
2 Monikrazy Ashington (48), zdye724 (39)
2 Outed Wolf Gadarene (78), TheNothing (40)
1 tchaz Boo Radley (56)
1 XXsooted DWetzel (22)
7 not voting accobra_kid (20), confirmedtroll (25), loosekanen (69), darO (5), Effen (3), Hold'em 07 (12), VarianceMinefield (8)
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11-17-2012 , 11:18 PM
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11-17-2012 , 11:25 PM
bump
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11-17-2012 , 11:28 PM
any villager out there?
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11-17-2012 , 11:29 PM
i have a one time angel, who should i target?
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11-17-2012 , 11:29 PM
*** Event Update ***


Current Leader

Ashington 2

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Remaining Games


Boo = Spurs -6.5 OU = 200
zdye = Spurs -6.5, OU = 200
Kruze = spurs -6.5, OU = 203


Bryant = Clippers -6, OU = 190
Loosekanen = Clippers -6, OU = 193
tchaz = Clippers -6, OU = 196
Holdem= Clippers -6, OU = 198
monikrazy = Bulls +6, OU = 182
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11-17-2012 , 11:33 PM
Moni straight up frozen neut
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11-17-2012 , 11:37 PM
tchaz: you seriously don't feel like you're posting differently here?

seems like every post is some measured word bomb, and you're not interacting much

here's the other game...

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Originally Posted by tchaz
I guess a neutral win condition could be framed in terms of surviving either Fx or until the elimination of either village or wolves. A bit tortuous maybe, but I don't think neutrals are completely excluded simply by the announced win conditions.

'Too much mechanics chat to be credible' postscript: in the short mishmash that just finished on SE the f7 was 4v 1n 2w - with one v poisoned & no healer and villa with no kill other than the lynch. If (as wolves claimed itt) it had been 3-2-2 then n+w could have mislynched and nk-ed the villas, have the wolves win with their eliminate village condition, leave the game and have the neutrals win with their last men standing condition.
ok, opening mechanical word bomb, then

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Boo Radley
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fyp
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Well, I suppose you had done your share of correcting. Vaya's post feels false to me - I was pointing that out.

"popping" - meh - the thread was slow and I was reading something else. This seemed worth noting when I looked at the thread again.
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In a meeting - back just now.
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No - first time. I expect to be pretty gullible and find it hard to read people's tone. Also too reticent.
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lol (no)
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I didn't understand bobo's reasoning in #212 and subsequent posts at all. It just seemed confused. But this seems a good observation.
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No - it's not a good case and I'm not a wolf.

I don't have the meta to make tone reads on people, particularly in the first 100 posts. So it makes much more sense to me for me to start by trying to pick up and think about details/oddities whilst I try to accrue better feel for the other players. (Fwiw playing feels/seems quite different from reading games I wasn't playing in.)

The neutrals win condition seemed like a good way of making a first post with some content. Many people have come into the thread and insta votes Boo - Shark himself did - for obvious reasons.

My post about vaya was in order to note that it was a strange thing for him to allegedly be think about who to target in ITAs whilst seemingly not knowing that they are only going to start tomorrow. I'm not sure that in iteslf amounts to vaya being wolfy, but I'm bearing it in mind.

Then I leave the thread for a meeting and shark starts tunneling. It doesn't make any sense at all to think that I'm disappearing under pressure given the paucity of what he's pushing with - if I had been around it would have been much simpler to just tell him he was wrong.
2nd word bomb

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Agree with this. So I should probably find someone else to vote, now.
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thanks.

unvote

and with that I'm out again for a couple of hours
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I'm back. Just spent 10 minutes trying to skim - that doesn't seem to work for me at all - I got no info except that Gad and Dean are having pretty interesting discussions in their own private thread.

I guess I'll try to catch up from mid page 6 whilst being at the ongoing end of the thread. Not sure how you do that. Should I F5 here every 5 minutes? More often? Less?
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Shark - did you see my response to you at #492 ? Do you want me to quote it again for you?
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Not really liking pokerbobo's play - drop-in vote on me with no explanation after that response post together with the confused stuff about Gad-v-Dean mechanics. Hard to tell if he would really put the mechanics thing out there as a wolf though. So I think my lean is towards not-great villaging.
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OK, I'll take this as an opportunity to repeat what I said earlier

Shark's case

My response
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Ok, well, I don't think I can really add any more to what I said about what you're making out of those three posts of mine, so I'll leave it at that for them.

Also, lol@me for thinking I would be able to read on from p6 - can't even keep up with the thread whilst typing
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Yes - was this explained somewhere on p6-13?
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Voted you, made a post, had a meeting, got tunnelled by shark, came back from meeting and responded, made some more posts - don't think you missed much tbh - but I did unvote from you because I liked you argument in #446 about disko, went out and got back about 45 minutes ago. Trying to keep up and post some answers since.
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Can you throw us a # ? I'm really struggling to find my own post in real time even knowing roughly where they are.
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noted
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Well I am eventually finding my own. Could you either briefly repeat/summarize the explanation or tell me where I can read it, please.
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Thanks very much. I have just found your "truth isn't always persuasive" line. And have to agree.
and so on...

idk, feels a lot different to me

like so many posts of yours itg feel like you spent a bunch of time carefully constructing them, etc

am i nuts?
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11-17-2012 , 11:40 PM
*** Event Update ***


Current Leader

Ashington 2

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Remaining Game

Bryant = Clippers -6, OU = 190
Loosekanen = Clippers -6, OU = 193
tchaz = Clippers -6, OU = 196
Holdem= Clippers -6, OU = 198
monikrazy = Bulls +6, OU = 182
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11-17-2012 , 11:41 PM
I'm 95 percent sure you're nuts, henrik
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11-17-2012 , 11:41 PM
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*** Event Update ***


Current Leader

Ashington 2

_______________________________
Remaining Game

Bryant = Clippers -6, OU = 190
Loosekanen = Clippers -6, OU = 193
tchaz = Clippers -6, OU = 196
Holdem= Clippers -6, OU = 198
monikrazy = Bulls +6, OU = 182
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11-17-2012 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bryant Reeves
tchaz: you seriously don't feel like you're posting differently here?

seems like every post is some measured word bomb, and you're not interacting much

here's the other game...



ok, opening mechanical word bomb, then

















2nd word bomb



























and so on...

idk, feels a lot different to me

like so many posts of yours itg feel like you spent a bunch of time carefully constructing them, etc

am i nuts?
+1
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11-17-2012 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by zdye724
I'm 95 percent sure you're nuts, henrik
yeah me too

what do you think about tchaz tho?
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11-17-2012 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bryant Reeves
yeah me too

what do you think about tchaz tho?
I was referring to your read on tchaz.

I think you're reading way too much into tone and not enough into content, but you've been right about the wolves thus far and I haven't.
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