A villager does not care if he is "clear."

It is up to the other villagers to decide this.

You think you can say these things and no one will bother checking your work.

Your "work" on VMF is quoting four posts and saying he's a wolf. You aren't saying a single thing about his posts prior to today.

Strangely enough, that's more work than you did on okse, who was killed because you're elite.

VMF implied he was upset that for being voted because he was doing work. He then proceeded to do no work, in fact his posts had very little game content whatsoever.

Therefore it suggests he was not upset for not doing work since he could either do more work or prove he had been doing work.

Or maybe he is doing work in wolfchat and can't share it with me because I am a villager.


He even reacted positively when a villager was killed which is a classical wolf tell.


How have I not defined these posts as wolfy?




This has nothing to do with hardcore, someone who I am reasonably suspicious of, completely independent of my case on hardcore.

Of the 2 VMF has been much wolfier.

Do I care about VMF feels about hardcore? Maybe I do, but he isn't posting so I guess he isn't going to find out at this time.

let me change thatVMF

on a scale from teddyyy-mets

k go

Dude, this isn't true. Anyone who doesn't care about being clear doesn't care about being a villager.

Honestly, your assumptions are so flat out wrong you should just stop talking to me because you are on a completely different level where huge portions of how you assume the game is played are flat-out incorrect.

k im out for awhile bbl as a different kruze

its not the time, its what you've done with the time

here you are making excuses instead of trying to be villagery

This is getting tiresome

saving my shat for now

Zdye your show-your-work mentality is clownish.

I don't need to show work to push okse. My work is I've played with him as a wolf and villager and I know what his game looks like and I made posts d1 and d2 to the same effect: Prove it or get wagoned.

Just like I don't need to show my work to push VMF: he has to prove to me he is a villager because right now he hasn't passed the 'simple effort' test.

I am confident in my ability to read players but I can't read if they don't post so I will vote them if they don't post and if they are villagers they are bringing it on themselves.

This is very simple and easy to understand.

moni has moved onto my villager list

i am extremely riled, nobody is posting, when i win the sports betting contest i am shooting the serial killer and then everyone can talk about how lock clear i am

i am going to try and not post again until tommorow and hopefully other villagers do constructive work in the meantime

So let me get this straight.

You're going to tunnel VMF.

But you aren't going to comment on his posts prior to today?

vyk's WIM attitude sure has faded

Monikrazy is not a villager.

you're not a villager

Well I will tell you this.

You don't look "golden" from pushing okse.

You don't look "golden" from "pushing" binkles.

Nothing you have said that you have done is remotely clearing.

If you would only admit that, I could believe that you are a villager.

No I all ready commented on them. He didn't do anything d1 to make me think he was a villager, so if I don't see signs of him being a villager going forward I am going to agressively push him.

Now if you want to go and comment on them or he wants to comment on them I will read what you write but if someone is wolfy I don't feel a need to go write an essay about which specific d1 posts looked the worst. He looks sufficiently bad from his posts today all ready for me to skip straight into aggressive pressure and forcing interactions.

no zdye

i will fight you to my dying breathe, i think everything i do is villagery and in fact it is villagery by virtue of me being a villager

if you aren't comfortable clearing me, that is your issue but i don't need to conform to some silly definition that you think is appropriate

i think my work speaks for itself and that you should be speaking about something other than my work because surely it would be a greater offering than this

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I grouped you alongside KruZe and Outed Wolf primarily because your first 23 posts on d1 were fluffy, gimmicky low-content. Reading 5,600+ posts in a three day period is challenging for those of us who don't have 2p2 open all day. I often see comments like "700 posts already" or "d2 has 1500 posts, I'm not reading that, just give me the cliffs".

When I post, I try to make solid arguments in a short and concise fashion that are easy to read. It is difficult to sift through a lot of the garbage in these threads. After wasting time reading many of your early posts, it was an easy decision to just skim past your future contributions assuming you'd keep the shtick going.

Since then, your posts are readable. I'll spend time time tonight going back and giving you a fair shake. It wasn't a wolf or village lean, just a general frustration that the three of you (KruZe in particular) make reading these threads very difficult.

This is the flavor of the n1 kill of LKJ/Noze

This is moni's explanation of it:

What player, with such a vast amount of experience, could POSSIBLY conclude that there are TWO villagers who share a night vig? It strains credulity and no one who has played even one mm that had a neutral faction would ever think this.

Gad presses him on this ridiculous assessment:

moni's weaksauce response:



moni follows this up with a vote on gad four posts later:


More back and forth, gad follows up:

moar moni weaksauce:

lol calling out moni's ridiculous conclusions = gad is vig hunting

Found this gem buried in there too:

Later I happened on the stupid he was posting wrt the LKJ/Noze kill:

To which monikrazy never responded.

This guy may or may not be a wolf, but he's definitely not a villager. Him defending CT makes me believe that my tinfoil theory of him and CT being neut bros is correct.

Never changing my vote short of Boo lolcats.

I'm off, may be phone posting if at all the rest of the night.

Use your non-existent vig on yourself please. You're probably a wolf too. I'm the clearest player left in this game.

I will let the rest of the thread judge this interaction.

If they believe that you are as lock clear as you say you are, then so be it.

skimmed a few pages

i have no idea how to respond to this. i'm not the sk? i am NOT the sk.

i have no way to prove that. how would i be able to prove that?

this whole "gad gets villa points" to "gad needs to die" that outted wolf was doing was bad

thank goodness. i have no balls to swing

not really. i've been in PLENTY of games where "xxx has disappeared from the game" and they never came back.

seems strange to assume DarO would be back

all i remember about any of your posts is a lot of commentary and fluff, no wolf hunting, no trying to push your reads, ect... you're not doing villager stuff