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i'm perfectly willing to agree to disagree here. sando/insanity are viewed as near the cream of the crop of SE players. i think an SE wolf team would kill them first. that's all.

insanity is the cream of the crop of SE?

maybe top 50%, but that's being generous

an SE w0alf team would kill a superstar like euro first, but as I've said before

we're dealing with both a POG heavy w0alf team and the very likely possiblity that euro is not a villager

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11-16-2012 , 11:57 AM

#2778

Gadarene

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Originally Posted by vyk07

t0an absolutely counts for evidence

you act like a villager as a w0alf, you p0ast it up, try to direct traffic, interact, you follow the standard template

the way I caught you is that I know deep in my heart that you're gameplay isn't genuine and that you have a hidden agenda to lynch villagers

I know that you're not a villager, I feel it, I can smell it

lulz

I'm a wolf because I'm acting like a villager, okay

look: YOUR OPINION HAS BEEN NOTED. MOVE ON TO OTHER READS. LET ME SPEW MY LITTLE HEART OUT BY MAKING CASES ON PEOPLE AND INTERACTING.

thanks

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11-16-2012 , 11:58 AM

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loosekanen

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if silman is a wolf he is very good at emulating his village game that i watched like 3 days ago. he was damn near impossible to come at when i was wolfing.

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11-16-2012 , 11:58 AM

#2780

Gadarene

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Originally Posted by monikrazy

Gad is just trying to find out whether I vigged LKJ or not

he is blatantly vig hunting in thread

you're ridiculous

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11-16-2012 , 11:58 AM

#2781

captain binkles

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Originally Posted by Montecore

So I asked for a thunderdome in both of those games, did I? I'm reacting to pressure in exactly the same way? You're being pretty intellectually dishonest right now.

Look, I can handle being pushed for reasons that aren't total bull****; go find some and we can talk about it

You didn't ask to thunderdome in either of those games, however you clearly react emotionally to getting pushed as a wolf and you have absolutely no reason to react the way you just did as a villager when all I did was ask Silman for his opinion.

If you were a villager you should welcome the scrutiny.

I'm not even trying to get you lynched right now.

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11-16-2012 , 11:58 AM

#2782

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Originally Posted by vyk07

I adamantly disagree, although I like the way you fleshed out your thought process

I've w0alfed in several SE/POG mixed games and the pattern I described absolutely was in full effect

the SE heavy w0alf teams that I've been a part of purged any and all POG village leadership first

Never wolfed obv but I agree with this. Would think an se wolf team targets well known poggers n1

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11-16-2012 , 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by loosekanen

i will say that i feel like gad is playing a lot better than he did in ponymash, which does lend to the theory that he plays a better villa game as a wolf.

whether it's true or not i'm not convinced, but he did state this himself in that game.

I'm getting heat for no reason

that means I'm not a wolf

rinse and repeat

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11-16-2012 , 11:59 AM

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loosekanen

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Originally Posted by vyk07

i think he's an excellent villager. not as good as a wolf but not bad.

i'll take your point into account. i guess that means euro needs some real attention today no matter what we agree on.

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11-16-2012 , 11:59 AM

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binkles you think montecore is being shady?

he has been shady and indirect to me

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11-16-2012 , 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Gadarene

I find tchaz's justifications for voting to be the uber-wolfiest, in that he takes no responsibility and just says, "welp, my villa leans are voting Slighted."

tchaz, how did you have 3-4 villa leans if you just started reading? who were those villa leans?

I answered Montecore (? i think it was him?) at 3 minutes before night last night when he asked me the same question.

I've < 10 posts total so if you trouble to read them (and the timestamps) you'll see that I had read the first 5 pages and the last few (3?) by last night. The leans were on the basis of that - mostly the start.

the people who were those leans and on slighted were LKJ, Ash, Forsy and loosek

I'm not convinced why you would be tunneling here when you could have easily found the answers to your questions (again given I have ~10 posts) if I'm really your top wolf candidate and you are a villager.

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11-16-2012 , 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by vyk07

Insanity is probably a top 4 villager in this lineup

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11-16-2012 , 11:59 AM

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Gadarene

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the hilarious thing is that when I flip villager, it will lead vyk and monikrazy to not one single ounce of self-reflection if they are villagers

and they'll be right back at it next game

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11-16-2012 , 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by monikrazy

Gad is just trying to find out whether I vigged LKJ or not

he is blatantly vig hunting in thread

I don't see that at all.

I can see BOTH sides to this argument.

2 people killed him could mean -
* 2 seperate people targeted tr same person
* a 2 person team

You are disagreeing with each other in which it is - I don't read it as Gad PR hunting you.

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11-16-2012 , 12:00 PM

#2790

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Originally Posted by Gadarene

I'm getting heat for no reason

that means I'm not a wolf

rinse and repeat

you are getting heat for good reasons

whether you are a wolf or not is a secondary issue, but i can personally attest that the heat is well deserved and you are a wolf

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11-16-2012 , 12:00 PM

#2791

Gadarene

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Originally Posted by captain binkles

Shark Sandwich is probably a top 2 villager in this lineup

fyp

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11-16-2012 , 12:00 PM

#2792

Montecore

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Originally Posted by captain binkles

How about we just vote for wolfy people like DarO

I like Silman's mq about tchaz, I found that long post fairly villagery

Silman did you see my thing about Montecore? Sorry if I missed your response

yes he did reply, it's relatively easy to find because it's on this page

great continued softpush though, this is real fantastic work you're doing

also, you brought up two games from over a year ago, and after a relatively long layoff I'm back and multiple people have noticed differences in my game

so maybe you should base your reads on games that were a little more recent, you playedi n most of them iirc

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11-16-2012 , 12:00 PM

#2793

insanity31

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DEAD

DVC?

DEAD

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11-16-2012 , 12:00 PM

#2794

captain binkles

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Originally Posted by monikrazy

binkles you think montecore is being shady?

he has been shady and indirect to me

yes, please take a look at his overall progression on slighted yesterday if you have the time

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11-16-2012 , 12:00 PM

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gad how bout your reread shark and insanity for peeks

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11-16-2012 , 12:00 PM

#2796

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Originally Posted by captain binkles

I responded
what did you think?

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11-16-2012 , 12:01 PM

#2797

Gadarene

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Originally Posted by monikrazy

you are getting heat for good reasons

whether you are a wolf or not is a secondary issue, but i can personally attest that the heat is well deserved and you are a wolf

hahahahahaha

I'm going into a meeting now

while I'm gone, feel free to enumerate these good reasons for me

thanks

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11-16-2012 , 12:01 PM

#2798

loosekanen

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Originally Posted by Gadarene

I'm getting heat for no reason

that means I'm not a wolf

rinse and repeat

you understand how i need to consider meta from the last game here yes?

as a villager in this mash i would think you would feel a genuine desire to assert a bit of villa dominance and i'm looking for that. i would especially think you would be careful not to be too emo after what happened in pony+

as a wolf i think you would tend to act more like you did in pony+ simply because that's the opposite of what i would expect from you as a villager in this situation.

i'm not saying you're either a villa or a wolf at this point but that's what i'm looking for. does that make sense?

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11-16-2012 , 12:01 PM

#2799

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Originally Posted by loosekanen

I'm comfortable to say that gad acts inherently more textbook villagery as a w0alf. He drops reads, forces interaction, leads in volume, and he pushes villagers (which is what happened last night). That distinction creates reason to pause

Gad as a villager is less one tone and more unorthodox in a few spots that he finds room for creativity. He constantly second guesses things, goes back on his reads, and makes controversial ones, which is a core staple of gad's village game

I've shown my work and established enough credibility here to honestly say that gadarene is a w0alf

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11-16-2012 , 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by accobra_kid

XXsooted -- can you comment on this?

This is our first time playing together. Do you always do this on d1 of each game you play? Why, just some bad experiences getting mislynched in the past?

I think monik's d1 assertion is mostly randomness but there might be some truth to it idk. That said I consider minimum participation to be a vote that is better than rand(); I would literally never just not post at all purposefully bc that's dumb.

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