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09-09-2013 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DrippingGoofball
More townies:
pizzaguy
binkles
weareking

More scum:
marvellosity
Murska
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Originally Posted by Nana7
Dripping, more explaining please.
Kinda confirms my marvel scumread, and gives a minor (not yet solidified) townread on DGB.
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09-09-2013 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DrippingGoofball
Hey Mastin do you think AP is vig?
I thought he might have been on D2. That was the main reason he dropped from my scum-list. Then, binkles flipped vig, soooooooo...
(Not anymore, no. I think he's scum. Maybe a scum vig, but not a town vig. :P)
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09-09-2013 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by traz
I've only read half the thread and am heading to work. So far I think there are alot of villagers.

Weareking, AngryPidgeon, Askthepizzaguy.....I like the way you guys play and won't be voting you anytime soon probably. Think you're all likely villagers.

devourer

MNOWAX is probably a wolf as well but not sure. Will be back later.
The thing about traz is that traz's thought process is a LOT like my own. I guessed as much when I saw traz talked about in the theory posts, and traz's posting during this game continues to confirm as much. While his reads do differ from mine, I've found it easy to follow them and also agree with a fair number. (Not that you'll believe me now, but I had a scumread on Devourer that I never pursued, because Devourer didn't have many posts. My reasons were almost certainly different, though; my reason for the scumread on Devourer is that I thought I'd synch up with Devourer, but I wasn't.)

So traz is being added to the town list. Yes, he theoretically could be hard-bussing, but I don't think he is; his thoughts look incredibly legitimate, and don't seem to be based off of having inside knowledge on who the scum are. He seems instead to have based it off of deductions that a town player of high-caliber would make.
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09-09-2013 , 08:53 PM
So,

Taylor as town.
Athexx as town.
Murksa as town.
MNOWAX as town.
Anstonio as town.
fank as town.
traz as town.

AngryPidgeon as scum.
Nana as probably-scum.
marvel as maaaaaybe-scum.
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09-09-2013 , 08:54 PM
Derp, forgot DGB.

Taylor as town.
Athexx as town.
Murksa as town.
MNOWAX as town.
Anstonio as town.
fank as town.
traz as town.
DGB as weak-town.

AngryPidgeon as scum.
Nana as probably-scum.
marvel as maaaaaybe-scum.
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09-09-2013 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mastin2
The thing about traz is that traz's thought process is a LOT like my own. I guessed as much when I saw traz talked about in the theory posts, and traz's posting during this game continues to confirm as much. While his reads do differ from mine, I've found it easy to follow them and also agree with a fair number. (Not that you'll believe me now, but I had a scumread on Devourer that I never pursued, because Devourer didn't have many posts. My reasons were almost certainly different, though; my reason for the scumread on Devourer is that I thought I'd synch up with Devourer, but I wasn't.)

So traz is being added to the town list. Yes, he theoretically could be hard-bussing, but I don't think he is; his thoughts look incredibly legitimate, and don't seem to be based off of having inside knowledge on who the scum are. He seems instead to have based it off of deductions that a town player of high-caliber would make.
I agree with this, as far as me liking traz as town. He's been in my town circle since day1. As for you, i'm still neutral on you atm, but leaning more towards town. Dunno what's going on with the pressure on you this round. Especially over the more inactive guys like chrja, bloodfox, and even AP etc
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09-09-2013 , 08:57 PM
GUYS GUYS

Cancel Mastin lynch

Mastin is town
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09-09-2013 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Verbal32
Last post by Murska is very pro town to me.

Top suspects are Nana & Taylor. Taylor for the weird play mixed with the perfect amount of WIFOM, and Nana for 2 reasons:

1. Buddying (snuggling) up to more than 1 player, and
2. Defending every mention of her name in a manner that hints towards suspicion on her, aka overdefending.

Vote: Nana
Quote:
Originally Posted by Verbal32
Something Mastin said pinged for me as well, but I'll have to look back for it...
Right, so thinking Verbal might actually be town for this. It's a weak townread, to be sure, weaker than my DGB read, but a townread all the same.

(Also, I only have room for one more wolf, anyway. :P Three dead scum, three on my suspect list, and an estimated total according to the vets-of-this-forum of 7 leaves only one opening left.)
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09-09-2013 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mastin2
I'm going to mirror Pizza and strike a bargain with you all.
IF I ACTUALLY RE-READ ALL 127 PAGES BEFORE MIDNIGHT BY MY TIME (it's currently 5:30), AND I MANAGE TO GET SOLID READS ON AT LEAST 15 PLAYERS, YOU WILL QUOTE MY FINISHED READS LIST AT THE TOP OF EVERY PAGE AFTER I AM LYNCHED AND FLIP TOWN.
(Or as close to every page as you can get, anyway.)

Anyone willing to take the deal? C'mon. There are at least half a dozen ways I can fail this bargain. There's only one way I can win it. Those are good odds, no?
Quoting to see if anyone's going to take it. Oh, and...

Taylor as town.
Athexx as town.
Murksa as town.
MNOWAX as town.
Anstonio as town.
fank as town.
traz as town.
DGB as weak-town.
Verbal as very-weak-town.

AngryPidgeon as scum.
Nana as probably-scum.
marvel as maaaaaybe-scum.
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09-09-2013 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mastin2
Quoting to see if anyone's going to take it. Oh, and...

Taylor as town.
Athexx as town.
Murksa as town.
MNOWAX as town.
Anstonio as town.
fank as town.
traz as town.
DGB as weak-town.
Verbal as very-weak-town.

AngryPidgeon as scum.
Nana as probably-scum.
marvel as maaaaaybe-scum.
I like your list, but I'd add Foolishness as scum for sure. Look at marvel and Nana7's interaction with Foolishness this round and last.
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09-09-2013 , 09:07 PM
I'll take the bet.
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09-09-2013 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by soah
Generally, on this site, what I look for most heavily at the start of games are the people who drop in to establish their presence, and then disappear again before they've done anything.

I'm still keeping an eye on those people in this game, but I'm giving it a lot less weight because I understand that at some forums there isn't much activity and it could be normal for people to just drop in like that for one post at a time.
(For the record--both Cyan and Devourer did this, and AP's doing this, too, in a sense. Heavily-active on D1, mostly inactive D2, and thusfar totally absent for D3.)
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09-09-2013 , 09:10 PM
The Angry Foolish Marvel Nana wild and crazy bus psychos.

Sounds like a cool name for an indy music group.
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09-09-2013 , 09:11 PM
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT

I am an alignment cop. TheMango is mafia. Marvellosity and mastin2 are both town.

TheMango

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Originally Posted by Fennec Fox
Votes from post 1043 to post 1717
It is night

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VotesLynchVoters
6 Infidel_PA DrippingGoofball (45), weareking (86), captain binkles (64), fank009 (49), chrja (27), traz (48)
5 Verbal32 Foolishness (27), mastin2 (14), Infidel_PA (11), Devourer (5), marvellosity (81)
4 Foolishness Nana7 (53), TheMango (33), Athexx (16), MNOWAX (2)
2 Athexx Anstonio (19), Magic no wait UDFK (13)
1 Magic no wait UDFK Murska (20)
4 not voting Verbal32 (3), TaylorFitz (4), Blood Fox (6), AngryPidgeon (6)
Based on yesterday's voting, there are two options.

1) Verbal is also mafia, and the mafia split their votes between the two (him and Infidel)
2) Verbal is town, the mafia wanted him (or myself I guess) lynched.

Verbal being mafia does not make sense. If both him and Infidel are mafia the mafia would have pushed harder to get me lynched instead. Rereading day 2, there wasn't much push to get me lynched, just votes kinda thrown here and there. Especially after half way through the day the choice was on Verbal and Infidel.

The second reason Verbal is not likely mafia is because we know there was two mafia voting for him. Again if Infidel and Verbal are both mafia, the mafia would have pushed for me or spread their votes out more. If Verbal is mafia, then there's 2ish mafia in the list of people that voted for Infidel. Given that weareking was killed at night and he was one of the two that caused the vote switch also supports Verbal is town.

With the conclusion that Verbal is town, I think anyone voting for Infidel is very likely town. If not, the mafia would have easily switched over to secure the Verbal lynch. At the very least, I would be surprised if there was more than one mafia voting in the Infidel list.

Thus the remaining mafia are voting for me (likely) or spread out amongst the other candidates. Based on what we already know and who is active we can deduce the following mafia team.

Mafia: TheMango
Athexx, Magic, Blood Fox, Taylor
Possibly Nana7 or AP or Murska (though these 3 seem unlikely)
Given that DG vote switched, one of fank, chrja, or traz might be mafia but not very likely.


I won't be able to post until tomorrow night (roughly 24 hours from now).
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09-09-2013 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Verbal32
My impression of [MNOWAX's] post was to lay down a lame trap and see if any overeager scum would jump in face first.

So.....um...that would be you [Cyan]? Heh.

FoS Cyan - townread on Wax.
Verbal moving more solidly into town.
The more I read, the more I'm convinced AP and Nana (and somewhat, marvel) are scum.
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09-09-2013 , 09:19 PM
Well, that makes it easy. :P

TheMango.

I'm still down for the bet, though, since I need to confirm my reads. Meaning I still need to reread the rest of the thread, and the bet can still be taken.
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09-09-2013 , 09:20 PM
mastin being town is disappointing if true. at least I could take solace in correctly reading foolish and marvel as town, and TheMango as scum.
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09-09-2013 , 09:21 PM
voting mango is not the correct play here
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09-09-2013 , 09:21 PM
Taylor as town. (Mid.)
Athexx as town. (Mid-weak.)
Murksa as town. (Strong.)
MNOWAX as conftown.
Anstonio as conftown.
fank as town. (Mid.)
traz as town. (Strong.)
DGB as weak-town.
Verbal as town. (Strong.)
Foolishness as conftown.
marvel as conftown.

AngryPidgeon as scum.
Nana as probably-scum.
TheMango as confscum.
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09-09-2013 , 09:22 PM
mastin could be godfather actually
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09-09-2013 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by traz
voting mango is not the correct play here
explain.
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09-09-2013 , 09:23 PM
TheMango

Unless there is a counter claim? I doubt there are 2 alignment cops.
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09-09-2013 , 09:23 PM
This game has been quite hard for me. Being subbed in 30 minutes before the day one start, and for the last two days being in a hotel with almost no internet connection. It truly has been frustrating trying to read the thread from both directions. Every time I get time to read thereís been more posts than I can seem to keep up with. Basically starting over 1000 post behind hurts and It makes it very hard to play in the most optimal way for me.

This is not to be read as if Iím blaming anyone has itís really no oneís fault. The days and nights are short which is a feature I really like (( Iím used to 48-72h days 24h nights)) I would really enjoy the speed if I had been in on the game and been there at the start. People seem in general to be active and responsive. Which again is something I love.

I have come to the realization that If I keep trying to do what I am right now by reading the thread and trying to get caught up that way. Iím just going to fall behind and if I was lucky Iíd be able to play in a day or two. The just will no work for such a game. So to continue playing Iím going to end up making some mistakes about names, people, and situations. Iím going to have to play with a server lack of information to be able to stay active in this game.

That all said I am worried about my position in the game as it is. I am an easy lynch, however Iím an even easier lynch at end game. As of right now I really donít have much history in the game. No one knows me, I have no bio, and I lack a lot of communication and ďleansĒ right now. Iím quite easy to blow off and have ďhow can we trust you? You have nothing thus far.Ē Thus I am what is easily one of the most dangerous positions I can be in. My reads are going to be lacking and Iím the perfect lynch bait to be used later in game. So I donít mind getting lynched right now, with three mafia dead Iím sure we have a mis-lynch to spare. However I know of my abilities so I am not likely to give up that easily.

Right now my gut tells me Taylor and Nana7 are most likely to be mafia but remember I have not read all too much. I need to get some more interactions for myself to work on going. Also I wonder why MNO and anstonio seem to be voting different targets if they are masons together?
Ohh well done foolishness. I agree with you that verbal is more likely to be town than mafia because of this.

Themango

I do want to say we have no need to lynch themango on the spot. Plenty of time for us to still talk and try to find more scum.
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09-09-2013 , 09:26 PM
It is possible Foolish is giving up Mango to save self and Mastin from ever being lynched.

It would be risky if there is a cop role who can counter the claim.

Is that what you mean, Traz?
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