#1 Game of Mafia Champions (WW Invitational) - Game Thread - Page 61

So you think a townie would think a player fell into a mafia trap, repeat that he fell into the trap, FOS him, and then be neutral on him later?

I don't really buy that.

I think his read could weaken. I laid a trap for Cyan myself which he walked right into, only to doubt myself after. Verbal could be wolf, but I have Foolish as highest likelihood.

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09-08-2013 , 05:44 PM

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marvellosity

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Foolish is town. His lynch is terrible.

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09-08-2013 , 05:44 PM

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weareking

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Originally Posted by Devourer

I was not inactive because I couldn't access the internet. I was inactive because I had other issues in real life to attend to that I'd rather prioritize, even if that's somewhat irresponsible. The reason why I decided to post now was because I got prodded.

Are you saying that if you weren't pressured to post you wouldn't? That to me makes it sound more like you have the choice to post or not to post, and up until now have been choosing not to. I have real life issues too, every single day I'm at college from 8AM (precisely when the day starts) until 2PM, and then I got to drive home afterwards so there's a big chance that I can go the first 7 hours without posting. Then I'm usually tired and take a nap since I don't sleep well at nights. However real life issues for like 3 days? If this is true I'm sorry for you and hope things get better.

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09-08-2013 , 05:47 PM

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Nana, could you summarise in like 3 bullet points why Foolish is most likely to flip mafia out of everyone? Thanks!

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09-08-2013 , 05:49 PM

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Nana7

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Overdefended Giga
Told people to ONLY vote Giga/MNO (wtf)
Bad defends today

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09-08-2013 , 05:50 PM

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marvellosity

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Those are terrible reasons. If somehow Foolish gets lynched I'm looking at you tomorrow

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09-08-2013 , 05:50 PM

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Nana7

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Oh yeah, for extra points, still claims Tony/MNO never claimed when it should have been obvious to any town the moment they did.

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09-08-2013 , 05:51 PM

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Foolish's defense on Giga looked artificial, that is, more like scum doing it with no real motivation to save him vs town that genuinely wanted to save him but failed.

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09-08-2013 , 05:52 PM

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weareking

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With that said Infidel/Devourer/Verbal are all better lynches.

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09-08-2013 , 05:53 PM

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marvellosity

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Originally Posted by weareking

Foolish's defense on Giga looked artificial, that is, more like scum doing it with no real motivation to save him vs town that genuinely wanted to save him but failed.

No, Foolishness would never put himself so out there as mafia to defend a townie. He knows that it would look like THIS to the rest of the thread. There's literally no mafia motivation to do it, because he is GOOD enough as a player to realise how such a defence would look. It's all wrong. The whole point is wrong.

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09-08-2013 , 05:55 PM

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Nana7

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It is not the overdefend by itself (though that is plenty suspicious). It is that PLUS the fact he told people to stay on Giga vs MNO (who had plenty of us pointing out he was bad lynch at that time).

Can you say backstabber?

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09-08-2013 , 05:56 PM

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For it to be suspicious, you have to assume that Foolishness is dumb, and he isn't dumb. It's not suspicious.

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09-08-2013 , 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by marvellosity

Are you saying he'd instead just bandwagon and hope that doesn't look suspicious?

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09-08-2013 , 05:59 PM

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Athexx

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I think I'm coming around on Foolishness based on marvellosity's defense.

marvellosity has obviously played with Foolishness, but Mango you say you haven't played with marvellosity. I assume you've played with Foolishness? Have you known him to be so stubbornly wrong the way he's acting this game?

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09-08-2013 , 05:59 PM

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Devourer

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Agreeing completely with the "champions" comment.

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Originally Posted by Foolishness

Athexx just said the following though:
"This is horrible voting logic too by the way. I agree with Infidel's statement. And disagree with you that town's only power is to vote: town also has the power to talk, to investigate, and to make connections. And your statement is self-revealing: "I would have voted you earlier had I known a wagon would build on you" - well if you had voted, maybe a wagon would have been built! Statements like that make it seem like you're NOT part of the town and waiting for the town to make its move so you can respond to. "

That seals the deal on Athexx. Verbal is tomorrow's lynch.

Wait, how does this make Athexx suspicious?

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Originally Posted by weareking

Honestly, I probably wouldn't have. In the past few days, I've had the choice to, but that means posting at midnight. Even the first day when I posted was around midnight, though I didn't have the problem of a huge amount of unread pages. I'm relatively free today (weekend and all), though I'm not sure how long that will last.

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09-08-2013 , 06:00 PM

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Votes from post 1043 to post 1515
Night in 2:00:56
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Votes	Lynch	Voters
6	Foolishness	TheMango (21), Athexx (12), Infidel_PA (9), fank009 (40), MNOWAX (2), Nana7 (37)
3	Athexx	Anstonio (19), Magic no wait UDFK (13), Foolishness (19)
2	Verbal32	weareking (55), marvellosity (52)
2	Magic no wait UDFK	mastin2 (13), Murska (20)
2	Infidel_PA	chrja (27), traz (22)
1	AngryPidgeon	DrippingGoofball (19)
1	chrja	captain binkles (41)
4	not voting	Verbal32 (3), TaylorFitz (4), Blood Fox (6), AngryPidgeon (6)
1	Error	Devourer (3)

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09-08-2013 , 06:00 PM

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Infidel_PA

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Lets see if this post goes through.

I wasn't trying to particularly remove Foolish, I just didn't like the vote on the runner up.

People seem to have better alternatives now and I am still able too vote.

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09-08-2013 , 06:00 PM

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Nana7

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Originally Posted by marvellosity

For it to be suspicious, you have to assume that Foolishness is dumb, and he isn't dumb. It's not suspicious.

I think he saw AP start pushing a case against him and panicked.

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09-08-2013 , 06:01 PM

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traz

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Originally Posted by Devourer

Verbal. Marvellosity's case is convincing enough.

I was not inactive because I couldn't access the internet. I was inactive because I had other issues in real life to attend to that I'd rather prioritize, even if that's somewhat irresponsible. The reason why I decided to post now was because I got prodded.
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Anstonio jumped onto the Athexx bandwagon in a rather eager way, contradictory to his previous comments that votes on inactives solely for inactivity are typically advantageous to scum. And while I find this scummy, from what I've read, Anstonio and Wax are likely masons/lovers. Could I get some post links :P? I'll check back for earlier posts myself if not, ofc.
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The Blood case looks fine, though I'd rather give him an opportunity to be "back to normal", especially given that there are better lynches.

Why specifically Athexx out of anyone else in that list?

That does not explain why you find Foolish suspicious or why you retain your vote on him now in any way.

Not liking this devourer post. Nothing wrong with infidel/devourer wagons

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09-08-2013 , 06:01 PM

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marvellosity

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Originally Posted by weareking

Are you saying he'd instead just bandwagon and hope that doesn't look suspicious?

He can do almost anything, but repeatedly and strenuously defending what would be a happy mislynch for mafia is not one of those things.

This is how you catch weak players, not strong ones. You may have gathered I have a healthy respect for Foolish.

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09-08-2013 , 06:01 PM

#1521

Devourer

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Verbal. I think I bolded the period >.>.

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09-08-2013 , 06:02 PM

#1522

marvellosity

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Originally Posted by Nana7

I think he saw AP start pushing a case against him and panicked.

Look at his posts. Does he look like a man who panics? Cmon Nana.

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09-08-2013 , 06:04 PM

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marvellosity

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fank/mango/MNOWAX/Athexx I need you to reconsider your votes. I'm moving on to hard-defence mode :x

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09-08-2013 , 06:04 PM

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weareking

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Originally Posted by Devourer

This is the wrong mentality, I don't care when you post, if you have no problem personally posting at midnight then by all means go ahead. You don't HAVE to be the most frequent poster to be townread, but lurking isn't the way to do it.

So the vote is 5-3-3 then, with Verbal still yet to vote. This might not go over well.