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09-08-2013 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DrippingGoofball
AngryPidgeonscum is keeping a low profile.

He's afraid of me.
Could see that.

On the one hand, saw something from AP that made me think town.
On the other hand, you're dead-on about his meta.
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09-08-2013 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by marvellosity
btw, binkles, I did kinda like your meta-case on chrja, notably the change in tone between jokey and serious depending on the alignment. Really I just want to see him post this cycle more than anything else :/
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Originally Posted by captain binkles
thanks! and yeah, me too =/

ah well, anyway I'm gonna go to bed, should be awake ~1hr before EOD
I kind of wanted to wait a bit to see how much binkels would push me based on it.

But i would like people to read that villa game of mine that binkels posted.

He is quoting a game where i was trolling most of day 1, I might be biased(or most likely i am) so i would like people to tell me if its obvious to them as well.

In the game he quotes i changed my avatar and location to the same as Chrisrjdk because people offend confuse us here on POG - after that i tried to engage Chrisrjdk as much as possible so it looked like it was 1 person having a dual personality having a conversation with him self.
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09-08-2013 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Athexx
What? This is bogus. Is this how you play normally? Not voting just because you're not "required" to?

The village has to vote. I know that not everyone likes to analyze votes, but with the diversity of players we have here, we will have plenty of people who do that and not placing one just says "I'm afraid to have my vote analyzed later."
You tell me what reason there is to vote. Yes this is how I usually play.

Do I vote Foolishness? Well I might, over Athexx, but there's no reason to when he's already leading the votes by a bit, and people would think it's jumping on a bandwagon.

Do I vote my top FoS which is Devourer? I'd be throwing my vote away on someone that 100% doesn't get lynched.

If the vote gets close with time winding down I'll place a vote up. You know who I think is mafia and I'm not really opposed to the Foolishness lynch so at the moment I see no real need to be screaming to get the votes off him.
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09-08-2013 , 03:51 PM
Oh wait you are Athexx. Sorry if that first bit sounded like third person conversation.
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09-08-2013 , 03:56 PM
Actually I could also go on Infidel or w/e his name was, and maybe even Magic/Verbal given the right circumstances, but those also seem equally unlikely. You see, usually there's 2 - 3 leading bandwagons that form by the day's end. And if the vote's close between some of them I'll vote the one that in my opinion is the more likely one to flip scum.
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09-08-2013 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by chrja
And my question to anybody that know mango, is he someone that would likely level with this sort of things?
Catching up and saw this question that I should be able to answer - it seems Mango is probably? possibly? from TL, given he knows Foolish

We very rarely have multi-shot vigis, almost always one-shot, so the very very very large majority of the time, shots are claimed right before daypost (we have talking nights) or very shortly thereafter.

Basically what i'm getting at is if he's used to TL type setups, the vigi claiming would be normal
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09-08-2013 , 04:00 PM
Votes from post 1043 to post 1381
Night in 4:00:56

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VotesLynchVoters
5 Foolishness Athexx (7), Infidel_PA (4), fank009 (35), MNOWAX (2), Nana7 (29)
4 Athexx Anstonio (19), Magic no wait UDFK (13), Foolishness (11), TheMango (15)
2 Magic no wait UDFK mastin2 (13), Murska (20)
1 chrja captain binkles (41)
1 AngryPidgeon DrippingGoofball (19)
1 Infidel_PA traz (19)
1 unvote weareking (16)
7 not voting Verbal32 (3), TaylorFitz (4), marvellosity (13), Devourer (1), chrja (15), Blood Fox (6), AngryPidgeon (6)
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09-08-2013 , 04:01 PM
Case on Blood Fox

I found on of Blood Fox's post to be interesting as i found it strange that he chose to talk about reads in meta. Therefor i looked at his other post one more time.

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Originally Posted by Blood Fox
Hello,

My name is Blood fox.... well it's Mark but you can call me blood fox or fox. I come from MMO-Champion where we have been running mafia games for almost three years. I might post a better intro tomorrow, but for now I would like to apologize on Sikku's behalf. He has ha a lot of things come up in life which made him unavailable for this game.

having just joined in with 30 minutes left I'm going to need to make this brief. There is a lot of pages and I cannot go though them all in time and examine them before the deadline. However I can see by very slim skimming there has been a lot going on. A few claims I presume and right now the votes are such that I cannot sway or effect a vote at the time of this writing. With that said I'm going to stay with a no-vote simply because I do not have anything to vote off of.

I will say its interesting how many (1) votes we have and they seem mostly early on. These tend to people trying to avoid the current lynch target. Somthign to look at once we get a role reveal from the current lynch.
What this the reveal tell you then?

Why did you chose to focus on a meta theory instead or looking at the wagons at hand?

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Originally Posted by Blood Fox
not sure how you can put DrippingGoofball as looking ok with his current posts.
Dismisses another persons villa read without reason (This is actually the closes we get to an actual read from him)

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Originally Posted by Blood Fox
*punch*

ok so I woke up and am packing things because I'm staying in a hotel for the next two days. so when I get there I will go though day one pick out some stuff I want to highlight and get fully caught up.

1k posts is nothing.
excuses

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Originally Posted by Blood Fox
hello guys, the hotel internet is so **** it takes a minute to load a page. so that review is going to come a bit slower, however one thing I do find interesting from day one is this:


all I can see is budding here because nothing screams town in his post. now again i haven't gotten past page 11 but i'd guess based on this if one of them comes up wolf the other will also.
I am reading this as he think its either v/v or w/w so a conditional read - Why not focus or at least be more clear about how your current stance on either two is?

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Originally Posted by Blood Fox
good morning. I just posting right now to show Im still here and Im still trying to read the game back and forth its just the format is so strange to me, and someone of you need to cut the things you're quoting down to only the subject you're quoting about and use the person's name instead of " you" when you have no quotes in your text.
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Originally Posted by Blood Fox
oh and that appears to be me venting, sorry. no sleep in this ****ty hotel.
Excuses

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Originally Posted by Blood Fox
Hey, I understand you guys are likely mad at me an I fully understand. This is the first time being able to connect to the Internet here all day and it's on my phone. Been trying to all day. Anyways I'll be home tomorrow so the excuses stop there.

Also in general mafia will post less so it reallly isn't that bad of an idea to look at inactives. This is the champions game so outside of real life getting in the way there's no reason for anyone to be less than active of they are town.
Excuses, and meta theory reads.

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Originally Posted by Blood Fox
my phone can pick up a semi stable connection in the loud as **** bar, while getting shoved around by hammered prom queens and their sleezy dates whom I hope crash into the river:.... Too far?

Anyways I serverly disagree with that statment. If we assume mafia are not going to play somewhat conventional then we are going to focus all our efforts into the active bunch, this gives the mafia the perfect cover to lie low and play conventinally.

Now you ask would it be the same if we focused a good portion of our scum hunting on to those inactive then the mafia will win by picking off low content posters. That however would not be true for a few reasons. Mainly because the more content scum posts the more they have to lie and thus the eaiser it is for us to dectect such lies.

Thus when we are looking for scum we should constantly see more content from people. Focus efforts on makeing people post and those who post the lest generally have the most to tell.

Ok so now I would like to apologise for any spelling or grammar errors in this post because it's near impossiable for me to edit on this thing. Tomorrow I'll be back to normal so watch out mafia once I see you do somthibg wrong I promise I will get you lynched. Ok going to kill a few people. Later
Again meta theory discussion.

This is a wolf that is having a hard time getting into the game, therefor instead of trying to solve the game by explaining why people are Villagers/wolfs he makes conditional reads that are pointless or he talks about role based on meta theory without being concrete about the current game.
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09-08-2013 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mastin2
Dang it, now my switch to him will look opportunistic. >_<

Magic no wait UDFK.

Was going to switch from binkles to him today because my vote on binkles has been recorded, yet wasn't doing anything, and I felt that a vote on Magic would be more productive.
Don't like this vote, seems weak and opportunistic to me
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09-08-2013 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by marvellosity
Catching up and saw this question that I should be able to answer - it seems Mango is probably? possibly? from TL, given he knows Foolish

We very rarely have multi-shot vigis, almost always one-shot, so the very very very large majority of the time, shots are claimed right before daypost (we have talking nights) or very shortly thereafter.

Basically what i'm getting at is if he's used to TL type setups, the vigi claiming would be normal
Fair enough. Thanks
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09-08-2013 , 04:04 PM
I didn't even realize the Foolish/Athexx votes were that close. Ok well I'll be keeping an eye on it for the next 4 hours (by that I don't mean refreshing the page nonstop, but rather just checking every now and then).
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09-08-2013 , 04:07 PM
If it comes down to Foolish vs Athexx I will probably vote Foolish is still think that first post by Athexx was very villagery.
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09-08-2013 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by chrja
If it comes down to Foolish vs Athexx I will probably vote Foolish is still think that first post by Athexx was very villagery.
This sums up my thoughts exactly, and also because I'm expecting Athexx to drastically improve at the very least on D3, and if not I'll just lynch him then.
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09-08-2013 , 04:09 PM
If the vote is between Foolish and Athexxx then this town is doing a ****ing awful job.

Athexx pre-advertised he was going to be absentish for the first part of this game, and as far as I can see he's just a plain lurker lynch. Just read through his posts and it's just meh.
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09-08-2013 , 04:11 PM
The thread is almost certainly quiet because mafia are happy with the way this lynch are going
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09-08-2013 , 04:13 PM
how do I expand posts that I found through the search type function? I can't find the damn button :/
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09-08-2013 , 04:14 PM
Got it! I'm being a moron, ignore me.
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09-08-2013 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by marvellosity
The thread is almost certainly quiet because mafia are happy with the way this lynch are going
I got a feeling that this game is either gonna be really easy to solve, because most of the wolves are AFK or this game is gonna be impossible to solve.
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09-08-2013 , 04:18 PM
I would like some opinion on my Blood fox case.

I know he hasn't said much and i don't doubt that he is really busy.

But i still think there is significant wolfy behaviour in his choices of topic.
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09-08-2013 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by chrja
I would like some opinion on my Blood fox case.

I know he hasn't said much and i don't doubt that he is really busy.

But i still think there is significant wolfy behaviour in his choices of topic.
i'd like your case much more if he hadn't replaced in at an inopportune time.

He could be mafia coz your case doesn't look that bad, but at least he didn't do the typical thing of pushing some random townie for lynch because he could
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09-08-2013 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by marvellosity
If the vote is between Foolish and Athexxx then this town is doing a ****ing awful job.

Athexx pre-advertised he was going to be absentish for the first part of this game, and as far as I can see he's just a plain lurker lynch. Just read through his posts and it's just meh.
I must have missed him saying this is advance then, and it still doesn't justify Devourer/Infidel. Devourer came back and only posted once recently, then hasn't responded since.

He's the lynch I want the most today but the reason I'm not pushing this harder is because I'm ok with a Foolish lynch. Just ok.
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09-08-2013 , 04:24 PM
Why are we not killing Infidel?

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Originally Posted by Infidel_PA
I wasn't feeling particularly one way or another on the two leaders. I was leaving mine elsewhere with a post ready to vote Giga if there was a last minute push on Foolishness, but that didn't happen. Yes, I am fully aware who Tony is likely to be, and I don't think he was in much danger of my vote. :P
So Infidel prefers the Giga lynch to Foolish, and was doing whatever he was doing. Indicating here he wanted to save Foolish over Giga.

Post flip...

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Originally Posted by Infidel_PA
How does my potential vote condemn? It didn't play out that way. Without a push to save Giga (which would have indicated a possible scum save) it doesn't say much about Foolishness itself. He could be mafia, but with no moves made it doesn't make him town. We know what Giga is now and it is annoying that he just inactived.

I must go however and I definitely today have a preference. Foolishness
This is the first time Infidel makes any mention of suspecting Foolish. He's gone from wanting to save him on Day 1 to his top lynch candidate on Day 2, without a single jot of reasoning other than Giga's flip.

This is at best lazy play, but much more likely mafia play.

Vote: Infidel_PA
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09-08-2013 , 04:25 PM
Eh stupid typos. Meant to say in advance.
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09-08-2013 , 04:26 PM
I'd vote Infidel over Foolish 100% but with 2 votes I doubt we'd be able to get a lynch pushed across.
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09-08-2013 , 04:26 PM
We have 3.5 bloody hours until flip, if this town can't build a wagon in that time then I'm gonna stop playing because the whole thing is pointless.
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