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09-07-2013 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Fennec Fox
Votes from post 36 to post 969
Night in 00:30:57

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VotesLynchVoters
7 Giga13 marvellosity (75), mastin2 (38), Verbal32 (26), TheMango (16), MNOWAX (9), DrippingGoofball (23), weareking (71)
4 Foolishness captain binkles (77), Nana7 (81), soah (62), AngryPidgeon (106)
3 soah TaylorFitz (41), Giga13 (7), Athexx (3)
2 fank009 chrja (31), Devourer (3)
2 MNOWAX Foolishness (13), traz (68)
1 captain binkles Askthepizzaguy (40)
1 marvellosity Cyan (9)
1 Anstonio Infidel_PA (14)
1 Nana7 Anstonio (13)
1 Verbal32 Murska (20)
1 traz fank009 (41)
1 Athexx Magic no wait UDFK (12)
1 not voting Blood Fox (0)
On Giga at this point, honestly, the only truly questionable name is Verbal, with an outside chance of Mango. The soah wagon looks like it's all town. fank wagon might be scum-driven. Cyan's mavel vote probably wasn't a bus.

Sorry that I don't have more. Right now, still in "lurking half-hearted why-am-I-even-playing-this-game" mode. Like I said, I'll try to give ya better analysis come D3. Better VCA, better NKA, actually doing isos of players, whole works. But not today.
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09-07-2013 , 05:15 PM
Hey folks,

I'm gonna be scarce until tomorrow night - my daughter's baptism is this weekend and we have people over and parties and all that.

So I'm not being inactive - just got some RL to deal with and then back in action. I'm at post 1105 to mark my spot when I catch up.
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09-07-2013 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mastin2
So, still reading. At this point am at 61. Never got around to making the cases, but now, there's no point in me doing so. Am going out on a limb to say that the night's results make me think AP's town,
So now we know you can't read AngryPidgeon.
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09-07-2013 , 05:16 PM
If we lynch AngryPidgeonscum it will increase everyone's motivation.
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09-07-2013 , 05:23 PM
Massclaim day 2 = VINTAGE FITZ

So after I switch my vote people wanna lynch Athexx now. I see how it is.

Kinda want to wait for mastin to respond to his wagon before looking elsewhere, although I've been down to lynch Athexx since day 1.
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09-07-2013 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by AngryPidgeon
Im almost caught up but I wanted to pause and quote this.

Both of the dead townies primarily suspected you over anyone else.

You've provided separate justifications for their deaths.

Your sideways encouragement of NK spec and joking castdown fo any implications it may have on you feels like bold scum.

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Im gonna have to be less active. Im letting games drop on my forum nd Im barely being productive. Was hoping night was longer than it was.
Dammit, AP. Now I'm looking like I was parotting you with my post. :P (I, too, thought night was one day extra, for the record.)
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09-07-2013 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by AngryPidgeon
Mastin, are you responsible for the pizza or cyan kill? Only interested in hearing mastin's answer.

Also you've been shoving an awful lot of town and settling on compromise lurker wagons - which I know is something you specifically consider anti-town.
I'm not answering this.

As for the second...it's part of the reason why I'm lurking today. (Part. The others being...I have other obligations to attend to, and that this is a busy weekend.) I'm off my game. I need to breathe for a while and get back into it.
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09-07-2013 , 05:31 PM
Mango, why are Blood Fox, Chrja, Traz, Verbal not on your list? Especially Blood Fox?
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09-07-2013 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AngryPidgeon
Damn it, Binkles presence in this game feels way different now that 2 of his main accusers are gone and its giving me chills. Its like out of the woodwork hes here to lead the town and shove the old counterwagon to giga.
Indeed. I know that as scum, I have done this before, and seen it from plenty of other scum. Acting a certain way while a player you know is alive...and when that player dies, completely changing your game now that they're gone.

But that said, it can (and does) happen from town players, too. Instead of the change being because they've lost their fear, though, it's because they've gained a fear, if that makes sense. And from what I'm seeing of binkles, this is not the 'gaining fear' I'd expect of a town player completely changing their game. It's far more reminiscent of scum losing fear. You said it yourself; binkles's presence thusfar today has been far more bold.
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09-07-2013 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DrippingGoofball
As town he gets maddeningly paranoid. He starts to toss out all kinds of crazy ideas, changes him mind, adopts another crazy idea for 5 minutes, indulges in wacky conspiracy theories, doubts PRs and innocents...

Here he is not at all paranoid.

I would have expected him to got after me by now, because we're from the same home site and I would expect me to be targeted with heightened paranoia.

He's not paranoid, he knows who the scum are, they're listed in his role PM.
Hey look, a post of substance.
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09-07-2013 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Magic no wait UDFK
Going back to the Athexx well. Mango, Murska, and Foolishness all seem pretty town to me. There's a lazy part of me that wants to believe scum don't write essays. Well, it's more than that actually but nya. Binkles and Nana look pretty good. MNOWAX seems clearly town from interactions.

None of this is new or substantial. I'm skimming.

Athexx

Traz would be good to look into as well.
This guy looks like scum.
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09-07-2013 , 05:45 PM
Hm. I suppose Mastin has said stuff now.

Foolishness, for the moment.
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09-07-2013 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by captain binkles
Hey mastin, you said this in post #84, your sixth post of the game



You've only posted 32 more times since then. Would it be fair to say your participation has been less than you would want/less than you anticipated?
Yes. I generally expect to be in the top ten posters of a thread. If I'm not, then generally, something has gone horribly wrong.

Also, tidbits that I haven't mentioned--skipped the Mango/Murtz/Foolish walls because they were too long. I'll get back to them later. The case by traz I also skipped, but unlike the others (which were "meh, maybe worth it later"), it's definitely one I think is worth coming back to, since I felt it could have good analysis in it.

That said--definitely a wolf or two following his vote on me. traz, himself, looks town for it, and I can understand a player using their own logic to wagon me, but at least two of the votes on me were, "Following traz", without adding anything additional to the analysis.
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09-07-2013 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Fennec Fox
Votes from post 1043 to post 1213
Night in 36:00:55

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5 Foolishness fank009 (24), MNOWAX (1), DrippingGoofball (9), TheMango (8), Nana7 (18)
3 mastin2 captain binkles (23), Magic no wait UDFK (7), traz (17)
1 TheMango Murska (14)
1 Nana7 Anstonio (15)
1 unvote Foolishness (8)
11 not voting weareking (2), Verbal32 (2), TaylorFitz (1), mastin2 (0), marvellosity (0), Infidel_PA (1), Devourer (0), chrja (0), Blood Fox (2), Athexx (0), AngryPidgeon (6)
Here we go.

traz is town. Murksa also looks town to me--the vote itself doesn't have reasoning, but Murska has earlier posts where he DID give reasoning on me. (In one of his walls. Forget which. But it's something I caught in my skimming as having existed. Thus, he's not sheeping traz.)

Binkles and Magic, on the other hand...no such excuse.
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09-07-2013 , 06:02 PM
Foolishness, you say there is no case on you???
Then let me restate mine.
-you cuddled up to giga, you really focused on no one else but giga day 1.
-two, the jump onto the "obvious wagon"
-Infidel having a vote ready for giga in case you were going to be lynched.
-you claimig that all arguments against you are null
-your vote on athexx


Thats the tl;dr version (posting from mobile only deserves tl;dr)
I will gladly elaborate on this when I get the chance
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09-07-2013 , 06:04 PM
Right, so, caught up for the moment. Leaving to eat lunch, and probably will be busy with other obligations for the remainder of today. (Maybe remainder of entire weekend.)

Right now, all I've really got is the suspicion on binkles and Magic.
And a few remnant townreads.

I'll see if I can compile them before leaving.
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09-07-2013 , 06:10 PM
TaylorFitz probably still town.
DGB is town.
Anstonio and MNOWAX are town.
Athexx I don't see as scum.
chrja looks town.
Not seeing marvel as scum.
Murkska is town.
traz is town.
weareking is town.

And that's about it.
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09-07-2013 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mastin2
TaylorFitz probably still town.
DGB is town.
Anstonio and MNOWAX are town.
Athexx I don't see as scum.
chrja looks town.
Not seeing marvel as scum.
Murkska is town.
traz is town.
weareking is town.

And that's about it.
Athexx I don't see as....let me get out my microscope here...oh, there are those 3 whole posts Athexx made. I wonder if they will be collector items some day?
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09-07-2013 , 06:23 PM
I know, the people voting Athexx don't look so hot.
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09-07-2013 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fank009
Foolishness, you say there is no case on you???
Then let me restate mine.
-you cuddled up to giga, you really focused on no one else but giga day 1.
-two, the jump onto the "obvious wagon"
-Infidel having a vote ready for giga in case you were going to be lynched.
-you claimig that all arguments against you are null
-your vote on athexx


Thats the tl;dr version (posting from mobile only deserves tl;dr)
I will gladly elaborate on this when I get the chance
How does my potential vote condemn? It didn't play out that way. Without a push to save Giga (which would have indicated a possible scum save) it doesn't say much about Foolishness itself. He could be mafia, but with no moves made it doesn't make him town. We know what Giga is now and it is annoying that he just inactived.

I must go however and I definitely today have a preference. Foolishness
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09-07-2013 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Infidel_PA
How does my potential vote condemn? It didn't play out that way. Without a push to save Giga (which would have indicated a possible scum save) it doesn't say much about Foolishness itself. He could be mafia, but with no moves made it doesn't make him town. We know what Giga is now and it is annoying that he just inactived.

I must go however and I definitely today have a preference. Foolishness
.... it doesnt??? You know what you said right, and the lack of a move doesnt stop your intentions???
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09-07-2013 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fank009
.... it doesnt??? You know what you said right, and the lack of a move doesnt stop your intentions???
His intentions are really only wolfy if Foolishness is a wolf though. If foolishness is a villager then wolfInfidel has no real reason to have a vote ready just in case. And if Foolishness is a wolf, why would Infidel publicly admit to what he was going to do?

Although personally I'd prefer it if he posted instead of sniping :P
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09-07-2013 , 07:56 PM
Verbal's posts today

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Originally Posted by Verbal32
LOL. I didn't stumble across anything. I saw potential scum, but decided not to push that angle yet. Seeing the flip makes me feel confident that I'm reading people properly thus far.

As far as interest is concerned, I'm no less interested in this game than any other player. I don't post walls of text. I don't multiquote like a boss, either. If I'm alive after midgame, you'll find I live up to my handle quite well.

My posts are either teasing people, or short, sweet, and to-the-point. Don't assume too much, Binkles. ;-)
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Originally Posted by Verbal32
@Murska:

In no way am I defending Nana there - that was me teasing Tony.

I had a scumread on Nana early (accompanied with a vote, btw), and then it started turning into a townread as day progressed and I read more of her posts. Into Day 2, she's being super pro-town, which now raises my hackles.

Same with Mango. Ultra-townie to me right now, which makes me want to either:

a) buy him dinner, ask for his number, and then never call him, or

b) lynch him immediately as he's "too town".
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Originally Posted by Verbal32
Hey folks,

I'm gonna be scarce until tomorrow night - my daughter's baptism is this weekend and we have people over and parties and all that.

So I'm not being inactive - just got some RL to deal with and then back in action. I'm at post 1105 to mark my spot when I catch up.
Now I'm not trying to say that you should care more about this game as a villager than your daughter's baptism or anything. But your only actual thought today has appeared to be 'mango is a villager'. You have left me very uninspired
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09-07-2013 , 08:00 PM
Votes from post 1043 to post 1273
Night in 24:00:53

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5 Foolishness Infidel_PA (3), Murska (17), fank009 (27), MNOWAX (1), Nana7 (24)
2 Devourer captain binkles (31), weareking (6)
2 Athexx Foolishness (10), TheMango (15)
2 mastin2 Magic no wait UDFK (8), traz (17)
1 AngryPidgeon DrippingGoofball (13)
1 captain binkles mastin2 (11)
1 Nana7 Anstonio (15)
8 not voting Verbal32 (3), TaylorFitz (4), marvellosity (0), Devourer (0), chrja (0), Blood Fox (4), Athexx (0), AngryPidgeon (6)
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09-07-2013 , 08:22 PM
I actually really want to lynch MNOWAX it's just a damn shame he's in the same boat as Anstonio. At least Anstonio has been more active today.

I'd normally be telling you guys to pull off this Foolishness vote but since there's still 24 hours left in the day and I'm not exactly opposed to him being lynched (his Giga defense looked super terrible but that's already been established). However at this time I feel Devourer is a better choice, it's annoying that people are going through this game and midway through D2 have less than 10 cumulative posts. I joined this game expecting a good job from all the players and for the most part I'm satisfied, but the no talkers are just ruining it for everyone and it's not at all what I'd expect in a champions game.

/end rant
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