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09-05-2013 , 06:01 AM
Chrja, start reading, and posting.

Binkles, if I had to put numbers to it, I would say Tony is in the mid/high 50's for scum and the others you named are high 70's or 80's for me, percent chance of being wolf, is what I am feeling.
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09-05-2013 , 06:01 AM
Hiya buddy

I don't think anything important enough has happened to really be worth noting at the risk of contaminating your thoughts, to be honest. Might be best if you read through things yourself given it's only 500 or so posts
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09-05-2013 , 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Nana7
Chrja, start reading, and posting.

Binkles, if I had to put numbers to it, I would say Tony is in the mid/high 50's for scum and the others you named are high 70's or 80's for me, percent chance of being wolf, is what I am feeling.
You really think AngryPidgeon is ~80% to be a wolf even though you don't really remember most of what he's done that isn't in relation to you?

I mean, that's a really high level of confidence :P
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09-05-2013 , 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by fank009
So it begins,
Taylor Fitz, letting that soft drop... definetly will be keeping an eye on them.
The usual bit of fluff, at the beginning of the day. weareking predicting 7 maf's, soah with a nose pointing high to the ceiling.

To answer your Question Nana, I'm feeling ecstatic.
This post reads strange to me. maybe its my poor english but it sounds like its been edited a couple of times, and if thats the case I don't like it as its a first post.
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09-05-2013 , 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Nana7
Chrja, start reading, and posting.

Binkles, if I had to put numbers to it, I would say Tony is in the mid/high 50's for scum and the others you named are high 70's or 80's for me, percent chance of being wolf, is what I am feeling.
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Originally Posted by captain binkles
Hiya buddy

I don't think anything important enough has happened to really be worth noting at the risk of contaminating your thoughts, to be honest. Might be best if you read through things yourself given it's only 500 or so posts
I will just get straight to reading then.
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09-05-2013 , 06:11 AM
Binkles, my feel changes as I read, though I do not recall all I read. Like a running tally.
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09-05-2013 , 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by fank009
scummeh post is deserving a vote
TaylorFitz




I dont know, the quote you gave, seeing how this is a "champions" game, wouldnt people try a bit "harder", To me it feels natural. (now if we are talking about people trying "hard"... (pokes taylor))
The second post of fank009 isn't any better. I didn't find that Taylors post to be wolfy, he is making an obv. joke. To me this looks like fan just want to join voting Taylor.
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09-05-2013 , 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by weareking
How is that post a scum tell? It's completely null. Town can jokingly say that and mafia can say that as a WIFOM as well.
weareking get a small lean for having the same thought as me regarding Fan's vote.
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09-05-2013 , 06:19 AM
watch everyone, as chrja repeats arguments that have allready been, at snail pace...
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09-05-2013 , 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Nana7
Binkles, my feel changes as I read, though I do not recall all I read. Like a running tally.
Yeah I get that. I just think 80% is really really really high and I'm very rarely, if ever, that sure about someone being evil on day 1. And if I was I'd be absolutely up in arms about making sure they were lynched given lynching at random is going to be ~30% to lynch a wolf
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09-05-2013 , 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Athexx
So I've got role/rule questions. I'm sure that these are all well defined things that if I just wandered around on these forums I'd find answered but I'm lazy and this website is blocked from work, and I'm going to be out of town this week (Thursday and Friday) so I'm just reading this thread and I figure it won't take someone too long to answer these things.

Note: I may or may not have questions on my own role, and if so, they are included in the list below. Or I might have made up questions that were already answered in my role PM.

1. Martyr - the rules say "can kill someone after they've died" - does that mean immediately on death, or can they wait and kill someone after thinking about it for some time?

2. Masons - for the record, how do "chats" usually work on these forums, since I and others might not be familiar with it? On Boardgamegeek werewolf, for instance, we have private chatrooms set up on Cassandra Project, an external website that provides lots of extra functionality.

3. Oracle - I presume the dead can respond to the oracle? How much/how often?

4. Randomizer - Does this give the target a random *action* or a random *target* but only for an existing night action they may have? If the latter, are they informed of the changed target?

5. Redirector - Likewise, is the target of the redirector informed of the redirection?

6. Vigilante - Is the death power a one-shot, or can it be used multiple times? Does it have to be used?
I find the colored part to be villagery - trying to hide your own role in fake questions while still trying to get some answers, isn't something wolfs usually care about in their first post.
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09-05-2013 , 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by fank009
watch everyone, as chrja repeats arguments that have allready been, at snail pace...
Thats how i get caught up, deal with it.

but please elaborate on why that joke by Taylor was wolfy?
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09-05-2013 , 06:31 AM
Tbh this is precisely why I hate D1. I can almost guarantee D2 won't have nearly as many posts, and yet the chances of lynching mafia are lowest on D1, when town has nothing to go on.

And I forget who it was that said something about meta reads. While they are no substitute for in game tells, I'm certainly going to consider them on a day where town knows next to nothing. I did call out Giga = maf and Fank = weak town, and provided reasoning outside of basic meta for both, even tho I initially scumread Fank.

Normally here I'd be screaming for you guys to vote Giga, my top scumread, but MNOWAX isn't really any better so if the lynch goes through on either one of them that's fine.
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09-05-2013 , 06:32 AM
And yeah dancing chicken, I thought the same about Athexx but since then he's basically not even posted.
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09-05-2013 , 06:34 AM
Also what chrja's doing isn't a scumtell in the slightest. It shows that despite being a late entry into the game he's rereading the entire thing and pointing out stuff where he can, which shows a certain level of care that mafia are unlikely to have.
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09-05-2013 , 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by mastin2
Why single out Cyan? I've given just as little reasoning on Cyan as on anybody else. :P

But yes, it's gut. All my reads at this point pretty much are. (For instance, you being town.)

Vote: fank009.
As it apparently didn't take before.
I don't like this post - I find it wolfy to kiss up to the guy questioning you, and i went back and in no previous post did he express any opinion on binkels.
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09-05-2013 , 06:38 AM
I mean I guess mafia could be feeding him information from early day on what's happening, but I'm the type of person that if there's two opposing theories for something, I'm going to choose the one that makes the most amount of sense. I expect him to be one of the better posters once he gets caught up.
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09-05-2013 , 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by soah
captain binkles

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Originally Posted by soah
It's more that I haven't seen anything.
I don't get this vote by soah.

Soah correct me if i am wrong. but didn't you at one time tell me that.

"We don't vote people for not acting villagery, but for acting wolfy."

I agree that binkels is in no way is villagery, but i don't think he has been wolfy either.
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09-05-2013 , 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Murska
True, but not in any substantial form such as votes or FoS, unlike several other targets.

Then again, I didn't do either of those. Mainly because my phone is bad for writing code.

Vote: Nana7
This is the second time the expression FoS is used - what is the meaning?
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09-05-2013 , 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by chrja
Thats how i get caught up, deal with it.

but please elaborate on why that joke by Taylor was wolfy?
- I dont like the "deal with it" attitude, basically, you can have a book, explaining the same thing, instead of 9001 short stories.(to each his own)
And If you read on, You'll see my response to the "fitz being wolfy" comment later on


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Originally Posted by weareking
Also what chrja's doing isn't a scumtell in the slightest. It shows that despite being a late entry into the game he's rereading the entire thing and pointing out stuff where he can, which shows a certain level of care that mafia are unlikely to have.
Isnt a scumtell, not really, It does clog up the chat, and bring up arguments that have allready been brought up, but I guess thats what happens when people are catching up. (like i said, to each his own.)


FoS= Finger of Suspicion FYI
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09-05-2013 , 06:53 AM
Yeah, Finger of Suspicion is basically naming someone as a main/high suspicion in the event that you're not voting for them at the moment for some reason, but want to have a similar impact as if you were.
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09-05-2013 , 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Anstonio
My vote goes on fank009
Not just a hello vote but more like. After reading this far fank009 looks like the best target for the moment, but of course that can change reel quick.
I hope people don't jump on me for not posting but I'm not into posting a lot. Especially when I have no info, I see no point to posting, I just watch what others are saying. Till I work out what is going on *or more like when I think* "I know what is going on"
I don't like this post.

its to self aware to immediately start defending your self, its not a villagery mindset.
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09-05-2013 , 07:27 AM
FYI all, I'm not quite caught up but I'm checking in. As I told Thingy when I signed up, this first week is going to be rough for me, especially with this site being blocked from work which means my usual time to post and catch up on the game is missing, and this week I'm going out of town with my wife for my anniversary. So sorry for my own lack of input.

I did see after some responses came in to my initial rules questions that we are supposed to pm those to the mods, and I did. Is it legit on this site to post those responses?
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09-05-2013 , 07:27 AM
Once Chrja's caught up I expect him to not fall back behind.

And basically Fank there's 2 ways you can look at it. Either he's town feeling a bit of guilt and catching up, or he's mafia and either relying on his scum buddies to active lurk and make these posts up for him or doing this all himself.

Given that there was no pressure on him despite him never posting, I think mafia bothering to reread the entire game wouldn't be an option here, at least not with this many posts already made.

So that leaves us with the first two options. Option 1 is plausible and I can understand it despite it kinda being a nuisance spam wise, and option 2 is less plausible since I doubt his partners would care enough (it goes back to option 3 essentially).
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09-05-2013 , 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by weareking
Given that there was no pressure on him despite him never posting, I think mafia bothering to reread the entire game wouldn't be an option here, at least not with this many posts already made.
since when did you need pressure on you to post? if that was the requirement, there wouldnt be any posting... There is the idea of gaining townie points, but I do agree with you that it is a bit extreme
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