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09-18-2013 , 08:13 PM
What are the chances wolves bus 5th member rather than an easily defended vote on Blood? Pretty much 0.
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09-18-2013 , 08:13 PM
lol we'll agree to disagree
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09-18-2013 , 08:14 PM
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chrja is almost certainly a wolf at this point imo. If he isn't, we are beyond screwed probably.
I still find it very odd when you say stuff like this yet don't bother placing your vote.

Why don't you just place it, and if you change your mind later in the day, move your vote then? It just helps it to be obvious where you're leaning.
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09-18-2013 , 08:15 PM
I don't want there to be a majority if I'm gone
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09-18-2013 , 08:15 PM
Also, I like voting when other people have voted. It provides more information.

In my experience, voting too early can make it easier for wolves to plan accordingly
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09-18-2013 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by traz
I don't want there to be a majority if I'm gone
Okay, true, I'm not used to playing games where instalynch is in effect.

But I'd find it interesting to analyze who's willing to place that final vote even so. And we're not at mustlynch today, unless there's three mafia.
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09-18-2013 , 08:18 PM
I think it's pretty obvious where I'm leaning anyways.

chrja/nana

After that, I hope I'm dead but if I'm not I'm rereading taylor/dgb and hoping I make the right choice.
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09-18-2013 , 08:19 PM
Often, I find the final vote to be much less interesting than the preceding ones
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09-18-2013 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by traz
Also, I like voting when other people have voted. It provides more information.
But if everyone plays like that, then everyone holds off on their votes waiting for everyone else, and you get nowhere.

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In my experience, voting too early can make it easier for wolves to plan accordingly
So you can bluff with an initial vote sometimes. We do that sort of thing both with votes and with roleclaims on Boardgamegeek a lot. In smaller games you'll often see most of the players in the game claiming seer/cop only to back down later.
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09-18-2013 , 08:21 PM
How about I just vote whenever I want? You play your way, I'll play mine
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09-18-2013 , 08:21 PM
The only down side to me is when I miss the deadline and end up voting no one like yesterday.

There are merits to voting early, voting late, faking your vote, etc etc etc. Pick your poison. I vote my way, you vote yours.
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09-18-2013 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by traz
Often, I find the final vote to be much less interesting than the preceding ones
I agree, and I feel like I'm playing handicapped because the vote tallies in this game don't record previous votes and unvotes, and I never did get around to accumulating that for all previous days myself.
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09-18-2013 , 09:30 PM
k I reread the whole thread. I'm guessing AP was targeted n3, which used up all the vig shots.

Foolish then fake claims AP as a villager. I'm guessing they targeted him then just decided to use him as the fake.

Foolish then votes for Blood Fox, as do some other players. Curiously, DGB also says he roleblocked Blood Fox, which throws alot of suspiscion on him. It's entirely possible that the wolves figured they would get Blood Fox lynched that day and DGB fakeclaimed Role Blocker to try and help that cause.

I'm sticking with what I said earlier.

chrja/nana --------> DGB ---------------> TaylorFitz
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09-18-2013 , 10:00 PM
Votes from post 4073 to post 4138
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1 DrippingGoofball Athexx (14)
1 chrja fank009 (13)
1 unvote chrja (2)
5 not voting traz (19), TaylorFitz (2), Nana7 (6), DrippingGoofball (4), AngryPidgeon (2)
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09-18-2013 , 10:48 PM
[QUOTE=traz;40221593]k I reread the whole thread. I'm guessing AP was targeted n3, which used up all the vig shots.

Foolish then fake claims AP as a villager. I'm guessing they targeted him then just decided to use him as the fake.

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-maf would be dumb, and NOT, hold onto that last shot at the end?

-slightly possible... I see it as a possibility as well...


Something I just remembered, as to why I believe goofballs claim...
That wifom at the beginning of day 2, here's the better q. Was there any tells, that people were reading me as a power... then goofballs action make sense as pie. I was blocked for been ng scummy, not as a power role. Villa RB's job is to block the maf pr's... you cant say goofball hasnt been playing to that OM
Fmpov, we are not touching any of my leans. You can try, but I will argue till we are all dead that they are town. Fmpov we really have only 3scum to choose from.
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09-18-2013 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by traz
k I reread the whole thread. I'm guessing AP was targeted n3, which used up all the vig shots.

Foolish then fake claims AP as a villager. I'm guessing they targeted him then just decided to use him as the fake.

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/QUOTE]

-maf would be dumb, and NOT, hold onto that last shot at the end?

-slightly possible... I see it as a possibility as well...


Something I just remembered, as to why I believe goofballs claim...
That wifom at the beginning of day 2, here's the better q. Was there any tells, that people were reading me as a power... then goofballs action make sense as pie. I was blocked for been ng scummy, not as a power role. Villa RB's job is to block the maf pr's... you cant say goofball hasnt been playing to that OM
Fmpov, we are not touching any of my leans. You can try, but I will argue till we are all dead that they are town. Fmpov we really have only 3scum to choose from.
I want desperately to understand this post especially the paragraph at the end but I'm sorry, it's a jumbled mess. Maybe you're posting on a phone or something. Can you say that again, more clearly please?
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09-18-2013 , 11:12 PM
Holding on to a vig shot is risky because you might never end up using it.

That extra villager death means alot to the wolf. They could be holding on to it but I personally would have used it by now.
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09-18-2013 , 11:46 PM
My list are Traz/Chrja/Dripping

I would like a Traz lynch but would settle on a Chrja lynch.
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09-19-2013 , 12:00 AM
Votes from post 4073 to post 4143
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1 DrippingGoofball Athexx (15)
1 chrja fank009 (14)
1 unvote chrja (2)
5 not voting traz (20), TaylorFitz (2), Nana7 (7), DrippingGoofball (4), AngryPidgeon (2)
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09-19-2013 , 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Athexx

I want desperately to understand this post especially the paragraph at the end but I'm sorry, it's a jumbled mess. Maybe you're posting on a phone or something. Can you say that again, more clearly please?
ya...

was mobile at the time.. I'll definetly reword my stance on goofball.

Traz argues that DGB may be scum claiming roleblocker. I think the biggest Town points Goofball has, Is in that Wifom at the beginning of day 2 with me. It fits with him being roleblocker, and his attitude doesnt really show as it is being forced. Yes Bloodfox was a sitting duck. The Wifom on day 2, plus the rest of the blocks, seem to be in the line of what someone with the town roleblocker would do.
Town roleblockers are supposed to stop scum behaviour (right?). He's gone for people who he thinks is scum... and it fits.
Yes Bloodfox is somewhat damming, but That is a consequence to poor thinking. (maybe day 3 should be reread???)

We are NOT touching my leans... If you want to argue the fact that they are maf, I will argue the fact that they can only be town.

I need to reread the game, but I feel that I think that I have everything as good as down packed as to who the remaining scum are.
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09-19-2013 , 12:48 AM
That's it nana? no more explanations? Just a list that pretty much looks like mine except you swap your name out?
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09-19-2013 , 12:48 AM
nana in case I don't get to vote tomorrow
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09-19-2013 , 01:02 AM
I have been suspecting Traz and Chrja for a while. Dripping is new, mainly for still be alive.
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09-19-2013 , 02:00 AM
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1 Nana7 traz (22)
1 DrippingGoofball Athexx (15)
1 chrja fank009 (15)
1 unvote chrja (2)
4 not voting TaylorFitz (2), Nana7 (8), DrippingGoofball (4), AngryPidgeon (2)
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09-19-2013 , 02:19 AM
Re-reading d3, I wonder if the point of Fool claiming Mango was wolf was to clear Mango, hoping Fool would be the one lynched, and it blew up when we lynched Mango? Votes for Mango started immediately and Traz jumped in quickly to say lynching Mango was not the best move, and then kept trying to get people to lynch outside that claim. Then Chrja said pretty much the same thing.
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