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09-17-2013 , 06:48 PM
I am inclined to think Blood is dead weight town, but can also see him as vig and gain a lot of info about what has been going on with a flip.

If Blood is town, wolves were most likely voting Blood to save Fool. If Blood is wolf, other wolf would have been on Mastin. Maybe also having voted Fool after the Murska claim, since Fool was done for but Blood might live on.

It also gives us info about the vig, was it blocked or something else going on?

I like the info gain. I still like Traz/Chrja as most likely wolf team. Blood flipping wolf would pretty much clear them, but flipping town helps narrow down to suspects that include them both.
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09-17-2013 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Nana7
I am inclined to think Blood is dead weight town, but can also see him as vig and gain a lot of info about what has been going on with a flip.

If Blood is town, wolves were most likely voting Blood to save Fool. If Blood is wolf, other wolf would have been on Mastin. Maybe also having voted Fool after the Murska claim, since Fool was done for but Blood might live on.

It also gives us info about the vig, was it blocked or something else going on?

I like the info gain. I still like Traz/Chrja as most likely wolf team. Blood flipping wolf would pretty much clear them, but flipping town helps narrow down to suspects that include them both.
On the other hand, Magic has been on building a case against BloodFox for ages.

If Magic is scum, BloodFox isn't. (If Magic is town, it does admittedly leave us where we started with BloodFox.)
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09-17-2013 , 06:59 PM
well i've managed to rationalise why Foolish would vote BF on day 4, but i'm not sure if it helps me
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09-17-2013 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by AngryPidgeon
Athexx, what changed about Chrja for you?

Not that Im complaining about your vote.
Not *much* changed admittedly. My initial vote was, of the contenders at the time I voted, chrja seemed the least town, and I didn't have a strong case on anyone. But then he picked up posting again and I was getting the same good vibes I had felt before.
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09-17-2013 , 07:00 PM
Votes from post 3682 to post 4029
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VotesLynchVoters
3 Magic no wait UDFK AngryPidgeon (35), TaylorFitz (20), Athexx (9)
3 Blood Fox Nana7 (15), DrippingGoofball (70), chrja (30)
1 traz fank009 (37)
1 unvote marvellosity (85)
3 not voting traz (25), Magic no wait UDFK (2), Blood Fox (0)
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09-17-2013 , 07:01 PM
Feels ****ty but I like Nana's lynching for info. Dunno what to do with my vote tbh.

Blood Fox
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09-17-2013 , 07:03 PM
I see no actual votes by Magic on Blood. Magic has voted on the non-blood wagons. So I would not rule them out as a pair.

The Blood lynch is imo mainly a strategic lynch with a chance of getting the vig.
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09-17-2013 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Nana7
I see no actual votes by Magic on Blood. Magic has voted on the non-blood wagons. So I would not rule them out as a pair.

The Blood lynch is imo mainly a strategic lynch with a chance of getting the vig.
Yeah I feel like everyone is one day behind me.

For the past two days I was all about lynching BloodFox. Yesterday for the strategic consideration of him being the likeliest candidate to be the vigilante. But the village lynched Foolishness and then Mastin. I wasn't too opposed to Foolishness but had I checked in more over the weekend I would totally have defended Mastin (even though I thought he was wrong about a lot.)

The past two days I was all about lynching Foolishness and the village lynched Infidel and Mango instead ... now of course that was great.

I agree with you that for any one player to be the vigilante, Blood Fox is the likeliest ... but the problem is I no longer generally believe Blood Fox to be mafia, on both tone, and then Foolishness's vote.
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09-17-2013 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by marvellosity
well i've managed to rationalise why Foolish would vote BF on day 4, but i'm not sure if it helps me
I'm curious because I wonder about that myself.
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09-17-2013 , 07:13 PM
Here's Foolishness's vote:

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Originally Posted by Foolishness
I checked AngryPidgeon and he is town.



Who is going to die:
Top picks: Athexx, Magic, Taylor, Blood Fox
Next in line: Nana7, Murska, Verbal (all highly unlikely though)
Maybe?: fank, chrja, traz

Blood Fox

Here's the tally after Foolishness voted:

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Originally Posted by Fennec Fox
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VotesLynchVoters
5 Blood Fox DrippingGoofball (5), Foolishness (2), marvellosity (13), Nana7 (4), Athexx (1)
1 Magic no wait UDFK AngryPidgeon (7)
1 AngryPidgeon fank009 (9)
8 not voting Verbal32 (12), traz (1), TaylorFitz (0), Murska (0), mastin2 (0), Magic no wait UDFK (10), chrja (0), Blood Fox (0)
It's just sorta, inconsequential that he's voting on BloodFox.

I think if we lynch BloodFox now, we're going to turn up villager again.
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09-17-2013 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DrippingGoofball
I'm curious because I wonder about that myself.
it's as (you?) said about the vigilante.

The only rationale for the town cop being alive the next day is if a shot was missing. Although... had you claimed your rb by the time Foolish had voted?
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09-17-2013 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by marvellosity
it's as (you?) said about the vigilante.

The only rationale for the town cop being alive the next day is if a shot was missing. Although... had you claimed your rb by the time Foolish had voted?
By memory... I think I did... lemme check.
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09-17-2013 , 07:20 PM
Wolves would have known if a vig kill was missing, immediately upon reading the np.
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09-17-2013 , 07:20 PM
Fool's vote: 09-11-2013, 12:41 PM
My claim: 09-11-2013, 01:47 PM
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09-17-2013 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Nana7
Wolves would have known if a vig kill was missing, immediately upon reading the np.
Right.

Which was why I was still voting Blood Fox for the past two days.
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09-17-2013 , 07:23 PM
It will be funny if there are only 6 and not 7 wolves, and Blood is the last one, after Mastin voted to kill self to save Blood.

Which was a bad trade regardless of Blood's team, considering there are still 0 posts today.
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09-17-2013 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Nana7
Wolves would have known if a vig kill was missing, immediately upon reading the np.
they wouldn't have known it was due to a roleblock though

and DGB hadn't claimed by the time Foolish had voted
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09-17-2013 , 07:30 PM
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VotesLynchVoters
4 Blood Fox marvellosity (88), Nana7 (18), DrippingGoofball (73), chrja (30)
3 Magic no wait UDFK AngryPidgeon (35), TaylorFitz (20), Athexx (12)
1 traz fank009 (37)
3 not voting traz (25), Magic no wait UDFK (2), Blood Fox (0)
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09-17-2013 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by marvellosity
they wouldn't have known it was due to a roleblock though

and DGB hadn't claimed by the time Foolish had voted

The only other possibility is that the target was bulletproof.

And I still think it's likely that the wolves tried to kill either me or traz that night as the two of us were the most outspoken against Foolishness's claim.
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09-17-2013 , 07:37 PM
Mastin is rolling over in his grave right now.
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09-17-2013 , 07:41 PM
do we think Blood Fox is likely to be modkilled if he doesn't post or what?
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09-17-2013 , 07:45 PM
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VotesLynchVoters
4 Blood Fox marvellosity (89), Nana7 (18), DrippingGoofball (73), chrja (30)
3 Magic no wait UDFK AngryPidgeon (36), TaylorFitz (20), Athexx (13)
1 traz fank009 (37)
3 not voting traz (25), Magic no wait UDFK (2), Blood Fox (0)

:00 good :01 bad
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09-17-2013 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by marvellosity
do we think Blood Fox is likely to be modkilled if he doesn't post or what?
I would approve of that.
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09-17-2013 , 07:46 PM
I just asked mod.

If so, we would go for another lynch, but that would put us in an "evens" situation.
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09-17-2013 , 07:49 PM
it's tempting just to vote Magic so we can hopefully have two town-sanctioned kills at once.

thoughts?
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