Not exactly. I never forget that I am scum. That goes against playing to my wincon. Heck, I'm a strong advocate of "don't play as if you were town; play to appear as town"--in other words, trying to be town is detrimental to a scum wincon; trying to seem town while furthering a scum agenda is beneficial to the scum wincon, so by nature, I cannot forget my scum role PM without dire consequences.

Heck, the last time I was scum and neglected to remember who my scumbuddies were, it was a massive town landslide--Voided's nightless game. DGB can confirm: I forgot the names of my scumbuddies (aside from Human Destroyer, who I remembered), and as a result, the very moves I was making to try and make myself look town ended up accidentally incriminating me as being scum. :P

However, there IS a point to this, as I have touched upon: playing as a person rather than a player. Instead of playing as someone with an alignment, it's possible to play as someone who might as well not have read their role PM and ignoring anything given to them--theoretically, resulting in play that is identical as either alignment.

Again, though, I strongly discourage this practice. So I'll emphasize this once more: if I were scum, I would have perfect clarity of who my scumbuddies were and what their roles were and such. Because not doing so is playing to a survivor wincon, not a scum wincon.

I talk about this rather extensively in my MD threads, which again are a large part of the reason I'm in this game of champions.

Again, this is also the method real town will use. So either I'm scum who has managed to make the most legitimate string of posts in my career (heck. DGB should know that my posting as scum is a lot more artificial than what I'm showing here. If I were scum, then I'll be blunt; I've never had a better scum game than this would be. But I'm not.), or it's actually town posting.

Also, this is the perfect demonstration of occam's razor. I'm either scum who has masterfully planned out a "forgetfulness" of my scum self in order to do a reread which sounds really legitimate in order to delay my own lynch and further a scum wincon...

...Or I'm just town, legitimately rereading in order to catch scum.

And now, the readthrough resumes.

Re-emphasizing that Athexx is town.

In addition to the analysis I have in this post (which is all correct, mind you), I'd also like to add that the Foolishness wagon at this point was all-town.

This makes Nana look town, and also is a legitimate point. There's definitely scum in there. We know it's not Verbal, which leaves {Blood Fox, chrja, traz}, and I'm going for the latter two.

I maintain that fank is town.

Okay, seriously. The Foolishness and Devourer wagons were both town-driven (aside from Infidel's obv-bus), but the Athexx wagon was entirely comprised of scum. That aint a bus. That's them trying desperately to mislynch town. The wagon on me is similarly not town-driven.

By the way, new goal for a new day. I realize that I started with less than 300 posts, but I'm aiming to be a grinder before I am lynched, which means over a hundred posts today. Short of my internet failing again, I'll do my best to reach that personal goal. :P

(Also, at the very least, AP's going to after my lynch be going, "****, why did we lynch him? He was obvtown. **** **** **** ****, why the **** did I not see it before? Why the bloody hell did I let my paranoia get the better of me? What the ****. ****, I'm sorry, Mastin." Or something along those lines. Probably others, too.

I imagine the spectator chat is also wondering why the heck you guys are lynching me at this point, but eh, I have a bit of an ego so who knows, they might be wondering how I've lived this long. :P But I prefer to think they're ranting at how moronic the town is being for ever thinking I could realistically be a wolf at this point.)

Seriously, AP. I know you've had on-and-off death-tunnel against Nana for the majority of the game, but this is town. Seriously, SERIOUSLY town.

Seriously, this is not a wolf.

Blood Fox is flat-out declaring that he is suspicious because he's less active, and is ridiculously legitimate in his apology for it. He is telling us he thinks that the scum are going to be more lurkerish, and is all-but-explicitly saying that he himself fits into that category and it's not unreasonable to lynch him for it.

Seriously. This is the exact damn attitude that I've got for a lot of things. I can read this. And it is town. So while I fully realize you guys have tunneled onto me and Blood Fox being scum (lolno), when I flip town, LISTEN TO ME ABOUT BLOOD FOX ALSO BEING TOWN.

Okay. So. This. This is ridiculously legitimate.

For the same reason that I can read Blood Fox as town (and the same reason I can read fank as town, for that matter, and AP as town further!), I can read Magic as town here:

Because Magic is displaying the same identical attitude that I have. Yes, this relies on me being town, but because I AM town, you'll know the profiling I'm doing right now is legitimate after I flip as such.

Magic, just like me, has admitted that this is not their top-game and that they need to do better--and soon after this post, Magic does exactly that and picks up the posting SIGNIFICANTLY. Walls, spams, solid analysis, the whole works, identical to what I did D3 and D4 and am doing today. Including the follow-through paragraph: This is much the same attitude I have. (Aside from the serious bit, of course; I don't mind serious.)

Wanting to be killed, or trying to have that eureka moment where everything suddenly makes sense and you've nailed the game down. This is what my mindset has largely been the entire game.

ok here's some quick thoughts after reading Mango's posts. I hope to do the same for Foolish and Mastin in a bit.

Mango pushes Foolish and semi-clears Marvel and Nana.

Mango semi-clearing me

Interesting comment about Bloodfox/Taylor. I'm not exactly sure what conclusions to draw but...interesting. The standard read would be wolf/wolf with Bloodfox.

Mango semi-clearing DGB.

Mango pushing Marvel...but only after Foolish. Likely bussing of Foolish and soft-pushing on the villager Marvel.

Mango telling us there are likely 6-7 wolves total and a 3x vig.

Mango bussing Foolish while trying to throw heat on Marvel and Nana. Semi-clears Marvel and Nana again imo.

More Nana semi-clearing.

Mango soft-pushing Marvel while bussing Foolish. Semi-clears Marvel.

I know not everyone is big into list theories, but here is an interesting villager list from Mango. The list contains himself, 5 confirmed villagers, and 3 unknowns. The 3 unknowns are mastin, myself, and fank.

I suggest there is likely to be a wolf in that list. And it's probably Mastin.

This is in response to Taylor. Just sounded like he was talking to a villager.

Mentions Foolish, Devourer, and Athexx in the same post but ends up unvoting Foolish to vote Athexx. Villagery points for Athexx.

I also know that not everyone is into vote analysis. But here are the Giga voters from d1:

traz, TaylorFitz, fank009, marvellosity, mastin2, Verbal32, TheMango, MNOWAX, DrippingGoofball, weareking

Mango was on it, as well as 4 other dead villagers, leaving 5 unconfirmeds:

traz
TaylorFitz
fank
marvell
mastin

Mango's post kind of sounds like there could be more than 1 mafia who voted for Giga, meaning there is likely one in that list of 5. Once again, I think it's mastin.

Interesting post by Mango. I think it shows a trend in his play and mindset. He listed Foolish and Infidel first, both confirmed wolves. Then he splashes suspiscion on a Athexx, Marvell, and AP, all likely villagers. I've seen that pattern show up a few times in his posts.

Semi-clears Nana here again.

Mastin, only one thing doesnt make sense to me... and that's traz being your target... it feels like d2 all over again (dead air = dead town) Im going to do some rereading

I dont like this dead weight of fitz/magic/bloodfox/(chrja???) I feel when we get to the crux of it.... there's just going to be a mislynch at lylo :/

Also, I realize this is less true now than it was back then, but to some extent, it still holds.

The case against me, essentially, boils down to these factors:
-I was pushing most of the flipped scum as town before D3. (This is the strongest point against me. The only defense I have against it is, "Yes, I suck, I get stronger as the game goes on.", which is pathetically weak. :P)

-I seemed to know too much in D3 when advocating a Mango lynch. (Or, y'know, I'm not an idiot and deduced as much.)
-I seemed to know too much in D4 when advocating a Foolishness lynch. (Or, yknow, I'm not an idiot and deduced as much.)
-I seem to know too much today when it comes to not lynching Blood Fox. (Or, y'know, I'm not an idiot and deduced as much.)
-I am defending Blood Fox who, clearly, must be scum. (You get the point. :P)

-My mention of real-life stuff is scum-motivated. (This is the second-strongest point against me. The defense against it is "I know it's a scumtell but did it anyway", which is itself weak.)

-My reread is clearly scum flailing. (To which, I ask--what's my endgame, here? What do I hope to accomplish by my "flailing"? Aside from a lame answer like 'not get lynched?'. Scum win games by thinking long-term. What's the long-term goal in the "flailing" I am doing? There isn't any because the reread is not scum-motivated.)

-My reads have shown inconsistencies a plenty. (Which, again, is simply read evolution. The scumtell would be if my reads held consistency in spite of new information appearing that should throw my reads into doubt. Again, this is something that both DGB and AP can confirm is a scumtell from me. Town players' reads evolve as they process new info. Scum players' reads remain stale and ignore the new info.)

But this is mostly just me pointing out why traz's push on me is scum-motivated and a side-note for my continued reading. If you were putting in the same effort to reread the thread that I am, you can kinda tell that I was being set up as a mislynch as early as D2. (Heck, maybe even D1.)

Traz thoughts on bloodfox's/mastin's self vote?

I have a saying on MS.net.

It's called "define interesting". Because the use of the word 'interesting', without an explanation of what makes it interesting, is a mild scumtell on mafiascum.net.

Here's a case of where traz actually does explain what he means by interesting.

Oh, there's a wolf in there, alright. I will love to see your attempted deflection onto fank after I flip town, and if you succeed in that endeavor, you try and backtrack or flat-out hide this fact to save yourself from the noose.

Again. Will love to see you try and backtrack out of this after these names continue to flip town and implicate you as a result.

Some quick thoughts on the d2 vote count. It's definitely the most significant out of all the days imo. The first count is from 1 hour before night, the second count is at night.

We have Verbal, Foolish, and Infidel all up for lynch. Verbal had 6 votes with 1 hour left and Foolish had 5. There were at least 3 wolves on Verbal and they were very very closed to getting him mislynched. Me and chjra were sitting on Infidel all alone.

Then beautifully, DGB, weareking, binks, and fank vote for Infidel, catapulting him in the lead, leaving a bunch of baddies on Verbal, praying he would get mislynched. This put the wolves in a tough spot. Many of them were on Verbal already. The ones who weren't, were stuck. Jumping on the Verbal wagon would look awful but they didn't really want to add to the Infidel or Foolish wagons either.

This looks very good for DGB and fank.

Now, lets look at the Verbal wagon:

Foolishness
Mastin
Infidel
Devourer
Marvel

3/5 are wolves, 2 are unknown. See a pattern? Mastin is everywhere he shouldn't be.

D2 was a perfect day for us. We just about lynched another village power role but instead 4 likely villagers rallied at the end and owned a wolf, while exposing the wolf team.

Looks bad for Mastin, good for DGB and fank.

Also, could look slightly good for chrja for sitting on Infidel and bad for BloodFox as he didn't vote.

No villager should EVER vote for himself. That's a 0% chance of success. Randomly voting anyone else is a better option.

It reeks of manipulation.

The reason I'm pushing traz is because I believe traz to be a wolf.

If I were scum, though, I can offer you some potential reasons I'd do this.
-traz and I are both scum, doing an epic cross-bus.
-I am desperately backed into a corner and feel that I have to square off against my biggest opponent. (Helpful hint: no. Again, I need an endgame as scum. If I won the fight against traz, that'd leave me with none, because I'd have just delayed my death by a single day.)
-I want to invoke the feeling of a TvT fight, so that we're both written off as town fighting one another. (This I'll admit is something I can and have done before as scum.)
-I want to mimic my town-play, and as town, I have a tendency to be incredibly-paranoid of big-name posters, traz among them.

But the actual reason I'm pushing traz is, once more, BECAUSE I REALLY, REALLY THINK TRAZ IS A WOLF.

To the point where I've semi-considered just flat-out fakeclaiming Even-night seer with a guilty on traz and inno on, say, Blood Fox. :P (Would be exactly that, though; a fakeclaim. Because as much as it would be nice to have some sort of saving grace, I've not got that luxury and am just a VT.)

If you pay attention to traz's posts, you can tell that he's setting up exactly that.

Traz has an endgame in mind. He has plenty of names lined up in the crossfire to be scum once I flip town, and will continue to replace names of flipped town with the names of other town players, continuously neglecting to pay attention to chrja who is his actual scumbuddy.

It's all there, in the posting. And the sad thing is, he very well may get away with it if people don't start listening to me. Believe me. After I'm gone, he WILL try to sweep this under the rug. He WILL claim that I was a godawful player that didn't deserve to be in the champions game. He WILL claim that my mislynch was my fault and not his. He WILL claim that this simply means I was wrong-town, with nothing other than faulty analysis, and he WILL push for the mislynch of players that I am dead-certain are town.

I wish I could vote them both.

Again. Read this.

He's setting up everyone other than chrja for a lynch. I can quote his progression, too. He may adjust his gameplan after seeing me call it out, but if I quoted traz's posts on JUST THIS PAGE ALONE, I can likely map out his entire game-plan, from now to winning the endgame, because he's broadcasting it via his "open" reads.