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09-20-2013 , 12:26 PM
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No ****. It HAS to be Taylor. That is the same bull**** that caught me reverend late game in NY159.

Taylor, why do you think scum was off the chrja wagon and why DGB over me?
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09-20-2013 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TaylorFitz
Me, Angry Pigeon, and DrippingGoofBall weren't on that last vote. I think it's safe to say that there is one scum player and left and the last would be one of the 3 of us.

It's 5/1 now (I hope and it should be). We have 2 chances to get this right.

Also I'm willing to believe Traz is town for now.

DrippingGoofball

Because he was around during day and appears to be the odd man out.
This HAS to be scum. Wow.

Ok, survivor claim aside, Taylor is narrowing it down to a mostly arbitrary pool without any real analysis on whether or not scum would bus (seeing as how bussing has been a common theme all game anyhow, I don't see why hes not even paranoid?) And the last vote on the chrja wagon was mostly for show at that point anyhow so him just ignoring that context is terrible.

Blatant buddying up to Traz with that little one-liner for no reason.

Trying to play DGB and I against each other with this little BS post. Nooope.
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09-20-2013 , 12:38 PM
"chrja is almost certainly a wolf at this point imo. If he isn't, we are beyond screwed probably. "

Traz, why did you say this? What made you so sure about Chrja yesterday?
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09-20-2013 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by traz
Athexx, you voting me makes me sad. You have been the most reasonable and thoughtful player for most of the later days.

The worst thing is your reasons for voting me. For mastinn? lol. Because you're still alive? Even worse.
There's plenty of time for you to convince me otherwise. Now today you voting and making a case against someone is directly correlated to me moving my vote off of you, so I suggest you don't wait too long this time.

And yes, I stand by my reasons; mastin obviously was more correct than I thought he was, this is fact, and one of his strongest arguments was also that it's very likely that the last remaining mafia in this game of champions was playing very well and very villagery.

And for being still alive, well your post here and frustration with me voting for you makes sense if you are mafia now; I have been very vocal in calling you good so if you're mafia, of course you want me around. On the other hand fank was very explicit that he would lynch you and nana. Nana was trying to get votes on you yesterday. So if someone other than you is mafia, the best nightkill is me, because that almost certainly gets you lynched today.
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09-20-2013 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by traz
then again i dunno anymore. Kind of sad to have ppl suddenly call you a wolf at the end without rereading the thread, with shoddy logic.
I intend on rereading the thread as well. And I'm very interested in hearing any case you might want to make as well.
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09-20-2013 , 12:43 PM
I have been expecting the nk for the last 2 nights. I agree Taylor's vote today is terrible. My first thought on reading that was he is still dead weight town. Whether wolf or town he misread what was going on yesterday.
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09-20-2013 , 12:45 PM
Why are you preemptively offering Traz hope that you will stop voting him?

That seems counterintuitive if your aim is to pressure him.
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09-20-2013 , 12:45 PM
Votes from post 4235 to post 4257
Night in 55:15:28

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1 traz Athexx (6)
1 DrippingGoofball TaylorFitz (1)
1 unvote AngryPidgeon (6)
3 not voting traz (5), Nana7 (1), DrippingGoofball (3)
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09-20-2013 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by traz
Athexx you're alive because you could be mislynched. Same reason I'm alive.
Two things:

Who's going to be voting to lynch me here? No one has seriously put forward me, fank, or marvellosity in the past few days as possible scum, but the other two died and not me. Yes it could be coincidence, but especially last night with fank, if the mafia is someone other than you, I really think it makes sense to kill me over fank since fank gave every indication he would more happily vote you.

And second, in my underlining above, you call me a mislynch with certainty, undermining your own point. Either you're mafia and know I'm a mislynch, or if you're a villager, then you're certain enough of it that you're not indicating any suspicion of me yourself, so what makes you think others will?
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09-20-2013 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by AngryPidgeon
Why are you preemptively offering Traz hope that you will stop voting him?

That seems counterintuitive if your aim is to pressure him.
What's the point of the stick if there is no carrot?
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09-20-2013 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AngryPidgeon
No ****. It HAS to be Taylor. That is the same bull**** that caught me reverend late game in NY159.
Can you fill us in on this?
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09-20-2013 , 12:51 PM
Previous post was at Athexx.

@Nana: I really REALLY don't buy his survivor claim. It just feels out of place that the mod would but a negative role that is universally disliked in a cross-site game. And he comes in and drops this bomb after lurking his butt off and getting some mounting pressure? Before the chrja lynch, I was starting to suspect it was taylor/DGB and she was just posturing on Taylor after his claim. Cause it really is THAT bad.


Combined with that scummy as hell post out the gates today that narrows his suspicions conveniently down to two and subtly offers peace to Traz by not outright calling him town but implying he can be if he just leaves Taylor alone.

Window edit:
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09-20-2013 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Athexx
Can you fill us in on this?
I don't have a great way of communicating this.

There was a game a while back where the last scum was being elusive. Finally he proposed lynching another guy who was on a mislynch wagon with him on which there was no flipped scum. He was like "ya there has to be scum in this pool" and the only people on it were him and one other guy (still alive anyhow).

Anyhow, I'm INCREDIBLY wary of people saying that scum has to be in a certain pool when that pool includes themselves. Town usually seems to think that if they were doing soemthing, its not unreassonable that other townies could be doing it too. And also him scumhunting with something so discernible/objective but with no real reason for believing it to be meaningful is scummy. Why that pool over ANYTHING else in the game? Its like what fool did D1 with his entry post that had a cute little list in it.
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09-20-2013 , 12:57 PM
My top suspect is still Traz. Taylor is back on the suspect list though.
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09-20-2013 , 12:57 PM
I have a reason that may be really solid for it being Traz, want him to answer my question before I elaborate.

but based on what I can see it might be irrelevant/meaningless.
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09-20-2013 , 12:59 PM
Also Im growing more confident in my nana townread.

Expecting to die yourself is a mega-town response to that Q.
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09-20-2013 , 01:00 PM
traz still refuses to claim, you know how I feel about that...
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09-20-2013 , 01:02 PM
Traz hasn't claimed anything?

I'm basically going to treat that as a Vanilla Shake claim, for some reason I assumed he had claimed vanilla...
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09-20-2013 , 01:03 PM
Probably because of his spec on PRs. If he had more info on that he would have spilled it. Either way, if its about flavor I'd say that pretty irrelevant at this point.

Also, how'd that work out for you in Futurama Mafia back when : )
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09-20-2013 , 01:07 PM
Right so Im having a hard time believing that CHRJA who was lynchable for a while now (although I guess not as much as I thought since he survived my efforts to CW him back when mastin was lynched without so much as a scuffle) sat on his last vig shot in hopes he'd make it to late/end game.

So either he shot me or ... got blocked by DGB on N4 and decided to not shoot N3 for whatever reason?

DGB, why did you target Chrja N4 if you didn't think he was particularly scummy? I'm recalling tha hillarious argument you had with MArvel now about that.
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09-20-2013 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Athexx
Two things:

Who's going to be voting to lynch me here? No one has seriously put forward me, fank, or marvellosity in the past few days as possible scum, but the other two died and not me. Yes it could be coincidence, but especially last night with fank, if the mafia is someone other than you, I really think it makes sense to kill me over fank since fank gave every indication he would more happily vote you.

And second, in my underlining above, you call me a mislynch with certainty, undermining your own point. Either you're mafia and know I'm a mislynch, or if you're a villager, then you're certain enough of it that you're not indicating any suspicion of me yourself, so what makes you think others will?
You're not likely to be lynched, but more likely than the alternatives in marvel and fank.

Also whatever "tell" about me saying mislynched...that's just silly. This isn't my first rodeo, that doesn't work on me. I think you're probably a villager so until that changes, I will say mislynch.

If you're a villager, like I think, I'd strongly suggest rereading and coming up with an alternative to me.
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09-20-2013 , 01:09 PM
There are a bunch of posts from chrja and foolish which kinda clear me if you go back and think about the interactions
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09-20-2013 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by AngryPidgeon
Traz hasn't claimed anything?

I'm basically going to treat that as a Vanilla Shake claim, for some reason I assumed he had claimed vanilla...
I claimed vanilla with no flavour
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09-20-2013 , 01:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJlN9jdQFSc

I'm coming for you, sneaky scumbutt.

AP IS COMING.
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09-20-2013 , 01:11 PM
Refusing to out your PM is not wolfy. A wolf would probably just make it up.

I have no desire to do that. I think it's a step away from taking a screenshot of your role and I won't do it.

Still not a wolf.
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