(weareking died that night.)
Again, Athexx is not a wolf.

Also, I'm trying to come up with a good metaphor for what I am this game.

I'm not The Cassanova, someone who's accurate but ignored, because my early reads sucked and only now are awesome.

Right now, I'm thinking a better metaphor is that I am "The Boy Who Cried 'Wolf'". Because I was wrong before and people got that into their heads, so that now, when I'm actually right, when it's actually important, nobody is coming to my aid. :P

You're the only player whose alignment you can be certain of.

Unless you're scum.

DIE SCUM DIE

So I realize that this quote was used in an entirely different context, buuuut...it actually does an amazing job of summarizing my point about traz. (And being a decent demonstration when it comes to me. :P) Traz, as scum, knows the alignment of everyone in this game. Traz knows exactly who he's lynching, and therefore, knows exactly how to plan things effectively. He can run the math, crunch the numbers, and come out with how much work he needs to do for every dead scum, and the pacing to come along with it.

A player, as town, is uninformed as to who the scum are. They don't know, but they have their best guess. My guesses earlier-on were all wrong, and later-on have been increasingly right. Because, slowly but surely, my uninformed is becoming informed.

There's a claim? Please point it out, there is no way I'm going to read the flood.

By claims I meant his reads, and his view that Traz/Chr are wolves.

Been there, done that, the accusation gets old fast.

I don't need to know for 100% certain the alignment of another player. All I need is to be reasonably certain about it.

And I am telling you. With 95% accuracy. As high as I can get without PR information to aid me. Blood. Fox. Is. Town.

And you damn-well know I pull this stunt as town. Because I'm the only crazy SOB who's insane enough to put my money where my mouth is and actually back up my statements.

I know the importance of being town, and being able to sacrifice myself. Ideally, yes, sacrifices are done at night. But I know that sometimes, it's necessary to take a hit for the team. Which is exactly what I'm doing right now. I am not scum. I am town, and I am right. And I am so sure that I am right that I am willing to die for my reads to prove that I am right.

This bit pulls more from my ComicFury persona than my mafiascum.net one, but basically...if a scientist is so confident in their theories as to push them being true, they're going to risk testing it on themselves as a demonstration of just how sure they are it'll work.

I am sure Blood Fox is town. I am sure traz is scum. And I don't need some blasted PR to have come to that conclusion. I can do it, purely off of my own skill as a mafia player, as a champion.

traz is most certainly town.

Oh, and by the way--strongly suspect that it won't just be traz setting up AP for a mislynch.

It'll be traz setting up a 1v1 between AP and DGB.

Because right now? Right now, the only thing keeping them from going at each others' throats is me. And once I'm gone, they'll eat their paranoia about each other and push to the end of time that the other is scum.

The accuracy of the read on yourself should be 100%.

Therefore self-voting to "save another player" for whom you don't have rolebased confirmation is just a ploy to pull at people's heartstrings. It is not a logical plea.

You are desperate scum.

And you're trying to string up players for things they haven't done.

Also, I realize this isn't the best argument, buuuuuuut...

If traz's reads are so dang accurate, and have been from the beginning of the game...

...Why have the scum not tried to get rid of him, even after it became apparent there wasn't any protective PRs around?

There wasn't exactly much suspicion on traz until I came around.

It's not a strong argument. Especially if you think I'm scum having made it. But it does contribute to the massive list of reasons why traz is scum.

Okay, how about we just agree to lynch Mastin today and if he turns out town, lynch traz, and if /he/ turns out town, then we still have a couple lynches left to do scumhunting in without all this theater.

Village needs to hear more from blood fox/magic/chrja/athexx and less from mastin the wolf

Hmmmm... ive been pondering the fact about traz not being dead yet... he isnt going to die unless he's a powerrole or every other one is dead, I think the biggest q, is why he wasnt shot on day 3

Even if mastin somehow magically turns up village there are still better options than me.

But sure, whatever it takes to get mastin dead

He couldnt be shot after day 4, there are far more formidable targets (like a cop)

DGB.

Read AP's "Role Madness".

I, as a miller, defended Malakittens, who I was certain was town. I had no role info that she was town, but I was certain she was town, certain enough that I was willing to risk my own life for it.

I did. She was town, I was town, that was one of the more recent applications of The Mastin Gambit. That's not the only game that I've pulled that stunt in, either. The first game I pulled it in was in 2009; Battle Mage's "Mean Mod Mafia", where I as the vig correctly pegged a player as town and mislynched myself to protect them.

You can also find this exact type of gambit in a New York game hosted by Untrod Tripod, and I think it was called Desert Mafia. There, I pegged Khan as scum, and mislynched myself to get him lynched. I was town, I was correct, and Khan the scumbag was lynched the next day for it.

All of those just off the top of my head; I think I've pulled this move something like ten times total.

This is not a move I take lightly. It is a move of desperation, yes. But it is a move of desperate town, not desperate scum.

Haven't done, but will do.

DGB, can you tell me after I flip town that you won't have paranoia about AP's claim being fake?

I don't think you will.


And I know AP well enough to know he's going to be paranoid of you. He's already displayed paranoia at your claim once already. He's going to display it again, especially after you pushed for my lynch and I flip town; he's going to think you're scum faking confirmation bias on me, and he's going to try and lynch you.

And even if you didn't think AP was scum, if he did the above (despite it being painfully-obviously-town-motivated), there's a SIGNIFICANT chance you'd call him scum then for having done it.

I know my players well, DGB. I am a smart enough player as town and as scum to be able to predict the future. And the future has you and AP fighting unless I can do my best to stop it now.

Question: If a maf vig is hypothetically blocked or the kill doesn't happen for some other reason, and this hypothetical vigilante has a limitation, such as, for instance, 3 shots. Would he still lose a shot?

Answer: Hypothetically, a blocked shot is a blocked shot. Having a finite number of shots does not negate this.

Important

Blood Fox, if you do not have time enough for this game, you can ask to be replaced.

(Also, another game where I pulled the gambit--twice.
WWE Shield.

My reads were awesome upon replacing in, save for a single blind-spot. It's the one and only time the gambit has not been correct. However, immediately following that, it was pulled again:
A special role mechanic set up a 1v1 fight between me and another player. Said other player I thought to be town, so I self-voted. Votes weren't allowed to be changed, so by self-voting, I locked myself in. I could have hammered the other player, but I chose to self-vote, leaving open the option of me being hammered, which I was.

Said person I saved? Ended up being a power role that got a guilty that very night. So while the first Mastin Gambit failed, the second Mastin Gambit turned the tide in the game and is ultimately the single-handed sacrifice that won the game for the town. By lynching myself, I gave the path to victory.)

Okay, it's settled. If Mastin turns out town, traz is lynched tomorrow.

*** MOD NOTE ***

Double modding ftw!

*** MOD NOTE ***

What will be really funny is if Mastin flips wolf, and the final three really does turn into Traz vs Dripping vs AP.