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iirc my scum priority list pre-foolish info was

mastin > blood fox > mango > athexx/foolish (one not both)

Was right on mango and foolish. blood fox I'm not sure on right now. mastin I think is a good lynch. I don't think foolish works his gambit without trying to clear a scumbuddy.

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09-13-2013 , 02:37 PM

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AngryPidgeon

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Originally Posted by Magic no wait UDFK

Good question.

So I kinda read back a little. TRAZ'S POST HELPED.

My reads atm

Villagery w/ reasoning

Anstonio (good interactions with Cyan, hinted mason with MNOWAX I think
MNOWAX see above
Verbal FOS'd Cyan
Dripping Goofball wagoning Cyan early
AngryPidgeon went in hard on Cyan
captain binkles see above
marvellosity wanted to quicklynch Cyan but could've been bussing

Villagery w/ GUT (lol)

Nana
fank
traz

Mastin looks really bad after traz's analysis. Tempted to follow him.

Athexx MIA.

Mastin

Feels the need to point out that he is providing reasoning for his reads?
Very shallow reasoning at that, mostly just stating things that happened.
Sheeping Traz w/o any commentary on why hes right or what about it was good?

This is scum, guys.

Ok, why are you uninterested in Blood Fox then despite there being compelling evidence for him being maf? But mastin is scum because??

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09-13-2013 , 02:52 PM

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Yeah, I do have a scum suspicion on Magic. One that I had before the whole Foolish thing as well.

I don't have much of an opinion on Blood Fox, though. The supposedly ultra-strong case on him just feels a bit light for all the weight and push it's been given. Plus, Foolish didn't try to redirect the lynch from BF at all, which does not confirm one way or another but, well, I don't think Maf has very many players left at all, to be willing to not do their utmost to keep those players alive.

Missing vig shot(s) - if the shots do not get refunded, it might be that the maf have a x3 Vig, and the missing shot was /either/ roleblocked /or/ hit AP.

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09-13-2013 , 03:05 PM

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If Mastin is wolf and Blood is town, Mastin could easily have switched to the Blood lynch. Fool lost all interest in pushing it as well when Murska showed up.

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09-13-2013 , 03:18 PM

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traz

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Mastin could not have switched, he was committed due to consistency

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09-13-2013 , 03:20 PM

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Nana7

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BloodFox

Partly because Blood is suspicious in his own right, and partly for info about yesterday's lynch, was it 2 wolves or a wolf vs a town? It would be incredible for wolves to bus for a 5th loss if they had a townie to vote for.

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09-13-2013 , 03:20 PM

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traz

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AP,

Another explanation for all your thoughts is that magic is a good player with good reads.

His reads have been similar to mine thus far. I'm not going to hold that against him unless we start lynching villagers.

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09-13-2013 , 03:22 PM

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traz

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The wolves needed foolish to be lynched. They would never have lynched anyone else.

Foolish was peeked, no one else was. Bussing anyone else would have still guaranteed foolish's death.

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09-13-2013 , 03:25 PM

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Nana7

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It was a pretty close vote though with good cases for both lynches.

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09-13-2013 , 03:32 PM

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traz

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wouldn't really matter imo, the hand was forced yesterday

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09-13-2013 , 03:58 PM

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Traz, if that were true then Magic would be able to cough up at LEAST a singular reason for his good read on mastin.

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09-13-2013 , 04:00 PM

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AngryPidgeon

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Hell, he could easily be scum with mastin too.

Mastin tried to call him town for no reason and when called out on it, handwaved away the question.

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09-13-2013 , 04:00 PM

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Votes from post 3080 to post 3188
Night in 52:00:57
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Votes	Lynch	Voters
5	mastin2	Magic no wait UDFK (3), DrippingGoofball (10), traz (16), marvellosity (28), Murska (3)
2	Blood Fox	Nana7 (10), Athexx (3)
1	Magic no wait UDFK	AngryPidgeon (26)
5	not voting	TaylorFitz (2), mastin2 (0), fank009 (4), chrja (0), Blood Fox (0)

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09-13-2013 , 04:04 PM

#3190

AngryPidgeon

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Not a single seer claim today? something weird is going on guys..

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09-13-2013 , 04:06 PM

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traz

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Meh I don't know how much I agree. If your argument is a lack of explanations points to wolfiness, you are barking up the wrong tree.

I'm pretty well known for stating reads and pushing them hard, without much explanation.

I don't think I can even explain mastin myself really. He's just...a wolf.

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09-13-2013 , 04:11 PM

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I understand gut - I'm guilty of relying on that too. But Magic's progression of reads is "I like Traz's case -> mastin is maf" and he has this unnatural obsession with him considering hes brought little to the table in terms of mastin analysis or focus. Just out of place posts about mastin being a GF? The setup explicitly said no GFs in it and him not even bothering to check that if hes so sure mastin might be maf, very dangerous maf now that a clear is on him even? I dunno. It just feels unnaturally set on mastin looking at the progression.

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09-13-2013 , 04:18 PM

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You compare yourself to,magic, but its not the same..

Youve been talking about the things mastin is DOING, your interest in his slot is apparent. Magic is just along for the ride.

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09-13-2013 , 04:21 PM

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marvellosity

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stop pushing a bad lynch :/

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09-13-2013 , 04:24 PM

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Nana7

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The godfather thing Magic said was odd, not checking. I double checked even though I knew it said no roles affect spy validity.

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09-13-2013 , 04:28 PM

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Magic no wait UDFK

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Didn't know there wasn't a Godfather as "spy" is not a term used for cop on my forum.

Not going to bother defending myself against AP when he actually said differentiating between reason-based and gut-based reads is scummy.

To do so would to be lower myself. What's next, I compose a legitimate response to a DG post?! Not in this lifetime.

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09-13-2013 , 04:34 PM

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I'm noticing that people are less inclined to just sheep me this game. Im noticing a positive correlation between my posts containing the word 'idiot' and occurrence of people sheeping me. : P

I just found out I'll have no access saturday from 10 to -around- 4, going on a hike with coworkers.

I'll try to check in when I can but I suspect my phone service is going to be spotty.

Soo, I'm probably going to end up on Blood Fox since shoving Magic is meeting more resistance than I have time for.

People letting him drop a sketch sheep vote with no explanation and go back to doing nothing is pretty mind boggling though.

Window edit: Lol, screw you too I guess.