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09-08-2013 , 06:35 PM

#1576

traz

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Originally Posted by DrippingGoofball

It would be easier to tell if I could effin' iso players.

I don't even know what this means

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09-08-2013 , 06:35 PM

#1577

DrippingGoofball

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Games this speed... so many players... no goddam iso function...

PLEASE NK ME

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09-08-2013 , 06:35 PM

#1578

Foolishness

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Verbal32

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09-08-2013 , 06:36 PM

#1579

DrippingGoofball

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Originally Posted by traz

I don't even know what this means

I cannot see a particular player posts in isolation. I need to look back AP vs. Cyan. HOW THE COCONUT

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09-08-2013 , 06:36 PM

#1580

marvellosity

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Originally Posted by DrippingGoofball

It would be easier to tell if I could effin' iso players.

You can, go to the forum page this thread is on, click on the number where it says how many posts there are. A box comes up, click the number of posts next to a player's name

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09-08-2013 , 06:37 PM

#1581

traz

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Go back and reread the whole game like a real man

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09-08-2013 , 06:38 PM

#1582

marvellosity

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rofl, star advice right there

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09-08-2013 , 06:39 PM

#1583

TheMango

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Originally Posted by Nana7

I did not dismiss the logic, I said I did not follow it and asked for it to be made clear a couple of times. The parsed list looks artificial too me, which would make it an attempt at misdirection.

And I did not bother to look up the posts, they made it clear. Tony vouched for MNO, MNO vouched for Tony, that = masons. You say well maybe they are lovers? So what? It is still a claim and any town with a clue says, hey, don't lynch them today. Not "make them get more specific" and not "lynch them anyways"

So Nana7 being on my suspicious list, I don't want to make it seem like I'm defending her, but I agree with her on why Foolishness is suspicious. I think its very likely that Tony and MNOWAX are mason or lovers, and the fact that foolishness doesn't want to agree with something that's so obvious makes me suspicious of him. Healthy suspicion is fine, but I cant get my head wrapped around his thinking. Fake claiming as mason as mafia seems pretty weak to me, and very risky as if a real town mason counter claimed, they would lose 2 mafia for almost nothing. If you also read Astonio's posts, he screams town to me, even if MNOWAX doesnt.

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09-08-2013 , 06:40 PM

#1584

TheMango

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Originally Posted by marvellosity

Mango could be mafia for characterising my push on Verbal as a lurker lynch similar to Athexx, despite the fact that Verbal had 3x the posts and despite the fact my case had nothing to do with lurkiness.

That's some prime ****-twisting right there.

3x post count of Athrexx (who up till just recently only had 3 posts to his name) still makes Verbal a lurker to me.

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09-08-2013 , 06:40 PM

#1585

traz

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If verbal dies and flips villa I think foolishness becomes more likely. The verbal voters look shifty as hell to me and he's kind of being railroaded.

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09-08-2013 , 06:42 PM

#1586

fank009

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Originally Posted by Foolishness

Verbal32

Look at that "save me" vote...

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09-08-2013 , 06:46 PM

#1587

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Originally Posted by fank009

Look at that "save me" vote...

Are you implying that him voting Verbal is scummy?

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09-08-2013 , 06:46 PM

#1588

DrippingGoofball

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Originally Posted by AngryPidgeon

We got speed lynch Cyan for the lolz. Also mastin thinks that slot is town, so added bonus of trolling him <3

Well there was this.

If you guys recall I called AP's bluff and I voted Cyan as instructed by AP. I made it a joke and said I was /in to troll mastin too.

AP ignored this and never followed up on that Cyan vote. I was hoping for a Cyan joke wagon and despite my challenging him to actually vote Cyan, AP never did.

AP has several Cyan reads that hover around NULL.

So yes. I want to lynch AP even more.

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09-08-2013 , 06:47 PM

#1589

fank009

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Originally Posted by weareking

Are you implying that him voting Verbal is scummy?

well, have a look at his past voting habbits, and his current voting habbits, he's jumping on whatever wagon is moving... (he obviously doesnt want to be left behind)

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09-08-2013 , 06:48 PM

#1590

Nana7

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Originally Posted by Foolishness

Then read the long post and ask questions about it. You were in the thread at the time posting when Murska and I made those deductions. You didn't think they were important? Why didn't you say anything then? Only now you say "I didn't follow the logic" instead when it was the heart of the conversation. Your actions don't make sense from a town perspective.

To quickly summarize, since Giga flipped town and assuming MNO/Tony are town, the lynch was divided between two townies. Mafia would have sought to divide themselves between the two lynches. After the "claim" mafia would have put some votes on Giga to ensure that one of their own didn't get lynched that day. The rest of the mafia would spread themselves out (all the solo-voters). Now check the order of events (who voted for whom when), look at who voted without giving a reason, and you have the list. Then it's a matter of picking out the mafia from the inactives and spammers. Like I said Infidel wasn't on the list because Murska and I both agreed he read town.

Verbal

Also aren't you bothered by the fact that MNO/Tony have both been relatively inactive (both day 1 and day 2), they haven't contributed anything, and outside of the claim they both read mafia? Combine that with the fact that one breadcrumbed the other, and neither confirmed a role, one spent yesterday arguing with you over nothing right after Murska and I made good deductions, you aren't the least bit curious to what's going on?

I still think the parsing makes too many assumptions. How many wolves were voting MNO? No way to know. How many jumped on Giga? No way to know. How many changed votes at all? No way to know.

And not really curious at all about MNO/Tony, they were pretty clear by the end of d1 and are lock clear d2.

I am still curious why you said people should have kept votes on Giga/MNO yesterday. At least you could have left out Giga's name for crying out loud.

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09-08-2013 , 06:48 PM

#1591

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Like honestly fank that post just blows my mind, he either votes for verbal or he votes for someone that isn't really on the table and for all intents and purposes is a vote against himself. So either he votes for himself (which he wouldn't regardless of his alignment) or he votes for verbal.

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09-08-2013 , 06:49 PM

#1592

weareking

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The fact you scumread Foolish for not effectively voting for himself is ******ed.

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09-08-2013 , 06:49 PM

#1593

Foolishness

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Originally Posted by DrippingGoofball

Doesn't that also make Verbal mafia because he put suspicion on Cyan but then never followed through or commented on it?

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09-08-2013 , 06:51 PM

#1594

marvellosity

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Originally Posted by fank009

well, have a look at his past voting habbits, and his current voting habbits, he's jumping on whatever wagon is moving... (he obviously doesnt want to be left behind)

I assume from this that you haven't been reading Foolish's posts. He called Verbal as probable mafia long before I started the wagon.

Go on, why don't you go check the posts yourself?

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09-08-2013 , 06:52 PM

#1595

marvellosity

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Originally Posted by TheMango

3x post count of Athrexx (who up till just recently only had 3 posts to his name) still makes Verbal a lurker to me.

30 posts relatively is not that much of a lurker, if you look at who we could be lynching into.

Further, that's twice now you've missed the point that the case was nothing to do with lurking. You are suspicious.

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09-08-2013 , 06:52 PM

#1596

weareking

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Dripping, it's time to drop the AP case and save it for a time when it won't fall on deaf ears.

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09-08-2013 , 06:55 PM

#1597

TheMango

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Originally Posted by marvellosity

I read your case, I didnt find it convincing. Nor do I find Foolishness's case convincing either. Verbal is an easy target since he's not around to defend himself. It's one thing to pressure people to talk, but another to just lynch an inactive with what I think is weak reasoning.

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09-08-2013 , 06:56 PM

#1598

marvellosity

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Originally Posted by TheMango

Then explain why the reasoning is weak, and don't mischaracterise the case?

If you don't think 30 posts is enough to get a decent read on someone, you probably shouldn't be playing forum mafia, to be frank.

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09-08-2013 , 06:58 PM

#1599

marvellosity

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For example, you have no issue with Verbal's mega-strong townread on you, despite the fact you only had 30 posts at the time.

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09-08-2013 , 06:59 PM

#1600

Nana7

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Originally Posted by marvellosity

Over 100 posts is not enough for you to get a decent read on me. :P

And how come nobody has the entire wolf list yet if it is so easy to read people?

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