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09-08-2013 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by marvellosity
He can do almost anything, but repeatedly and strenuously defending what would be a happy mislynch for mafia is not one of those things.

This is how you catch weak players, not strong ones. You may have gathered I have a healthy respect for Foolish.
It's exactly what I like to do. Seem like I'm caring but don't make much of a serious effort to shift the lynch somewhere else.
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09-08-2013 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Athexx
I think I'm coming around on Foolishness based on marvellosity's defense.

marvellosity has obviously played with Foolishness, but Mango you say you haven't played with marvellosity. I assume you've played with Foolishness? Have you known him to be so stubbornly wrong the way he's acting this game?
very very rarely, but then again I play in a different medium with him (video conference mafia), so not sure if it differs a lot from his forum mafia play/skill level. So from my point of view either he's town and most likely right on his reads or he's mafia. I guess we'll see either way (if foolishness gets lynched here or if he manages to swing it around and get verbal lynched)
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09-08-2013 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Nana7
I think anyone would panic in that situation.

I can not see a town doing all the things he did. I can see a wolf doing it.
yeah, I think you're scum.
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09-08-2013 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by weareking
This is the wrong mentality, I don't care when you post, if you have no problem personally posting at midnight then by all means go ahead. You don't HAVE to be the most frequent poster to be townread, but lurking isn't the way to do it.

So the vote is 5-3-3 then, with Verbal still yet to vote. This might not go over well.
I've already conceded that it was the wrong mentality though :/. I just kind of like sleeping before midnight.
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09-08-2013 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Nana7
Oh yeah, for extra points, still claims Tony/MNO never claimed when it should have been obvious to any town the moment they did.
I asked you to find a post where MNO or Tony claimed a role. Your response was this:
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Originally Posted by Nana7
Yes, I read those posts. I did not follow the logic then and still don't. So I am asking for an explanation. The splitting up into x from this group and y from that group makes no sense to me.

And if you still don't get Tony and MNO's claims then I am fine with lynching you for stupidity alone.
You were unable to find a post where they claimed because they haven't claimed anything. That's the truth. You have said in multiple posts that Tony/MNO have claimed to be masons. Other people say they are lovers. We don't know because they haven't claimed anything.

Do I think Tony/MNO are town? Yes...but a hesitant yes still. I was sure you were town but the fact that you are saying they have claimed multiple times and are so hard vouching for their innocence makes me think otherwise. You dismissed Murska's and my posts about who's mafia because "you didn't like the logic". Yet you haven't given any reason why that logic is bad, why that list doesn't contain a supermajority of the mafia, and an alternative plan to follow.

You're hard defense of Tony/MNO being "claimed" town and confirmed innocent and your hard pushing of me while somewhat hand-waving the other cases today (only somewhat, I give you you're not ignoring them completely) makes me doubt that you have the town's best interest at heart. And now you resort to lynching me based on stupidity when I'm the one pointing out the facts? I don't see how you're helping the town.

Fank, Mango, Nana
Pick 2 from Devourer/Athexx/Magic/DrippingGoofball/Verbal
Possibly one in mastin2/weareking/chrja.
Possibly AP or Taylor.

This is where the mafia are. We are lynching Athexx today and Verbal tomorrow, and then moving on to the rest.
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09-08-2013 , 06:07 PM
Foolish I know this might look bad but you need to take your vote off of Athexx he's not getting lynched today and unless you want it to be you instead we REALLY need the votes on Verbal.
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09-08-2013 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMango
very very rarely, but then again I play in a different medium with him (video conference mafia), so not sure if it differs a lot from his forum mafia play/skill level. So from my point of view either he's town and most likely right on his reads or he's mafia. I guess we'll see either way (if foolishness gets lynched here or if he manages to swing it around and get verbal lynched)
I'm really worried by this apathetic attitude. Foolish doesn't make consistently long posts and argues his points like this as mafia.

It shouldn't be up to Foolish persuading you to vote x or y, you should be telling the rest of the thread what you think of Verbal, or Infidel.

Spill please.
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09-08-2013 , 06:08 PM
Why are you voting someone who you describe as an either/or? It's so stinky.
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09-08-2013 , 06:09 PM
Alright.

Verbal32

Now you guys have the options instead of lamenting it.
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09-08-2013 , 06:09 PM
Athexx is definitely stepping up his game more today and he says he's gonna be a lot better of a player D3. He hasn't been terribly scummy (his opening was actually a town angleshoot which I doubt he'd fake as mafia only to then disappear), and the cases on Verbal/Infidel have more substance and reason to go for them.
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09-08-2013 , 06:10 PM
Infidel/Devourer votes are much better than Athexx/Verbal votes imo
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09-08-2013 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by traz
Infidel/Devourer votes are much better than Athexx/Verbal votes imo
your extensive reasoning has definitely convinced me
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09-08-2013 , 06:12 PM
I'd go Infidel/Devourer/Verbal, Athexx is bad Foolish is ok but there's better targets to go on. If by some reason it comes down to Athexx vs Foolish I'll have to vote Foolish but I won't like it.
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09-08-2013 , 06:13 PM
if you vote Foolish ahead of Athexx I'll wring your scrawny neck
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09-08-2013 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by marvellosity
your extensive reasoning has definitely convinced me
I commented on Verbal before you even did. What you see as wolfy, I don't.
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09-08-2013 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by weareking
Athexx is definitely stepping up his game more today and he says he's gonna be a lot better of a player D3. He hasn't been terribly scummy (his opening was actually a town angleshoot which I doubt he'd fake as mafia only to then disappear), and the cases on Verbal/Infidel have more substance and reason to go for them.
What about this post he made not too long ago?
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Originally Posted by Athexx
This is horrible voting logic too by the way. I agree with Infidel's statement. And disagree with you that town's only power is to vote: town also has the power to talk, to investigate, and to make connections. And your statement is self-revealing: "I would have voted you earlier had I known a wagon would build on you" - well if you had voted, maybe a wagon would have been built! Statements like that make it seem like you're NOT part of the town and waiting for the town to make its move so you can respond to.
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09-08-2013 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Foolishness
I asked you to find a post where MNO or Tony claimed a role. Your response was this:


You were unable to find a post where they claimed because they haven't claimed anything. That's the truth. You have said in multiple posts that Tony/MNO have claimed to be masons. Other people say they are lovers. We don't know because they haven't claimed anything.

Do I think Tony/MNO are town? Yes...but a hesitant yes still. I was sure you were town but the fact that you are saying they have claimed multiple times and are so hard vouching for their innocence makes me think otherwise. You dismissed Murska's and my posts about who's mafia because "you didn't like the logic". Yet you haven't given any reason why that logic is bad, why that list doesn't contain a supermajority of the mafia, and an alternative plan to follow.

You're hard defense of Tony/MNO being "claimed" town and confirmed innocent and your hard pushing of me while somewhat hand-waving the other cases today (only somewhat, I give you you're not ignoring them completely) makes me doubt that you have the town's best interest at heart. And now you resort to lynching me based on stupidity when I'm the one pointing out the facts? I don't see how you're helping the town.

Fank, Mango, Nana
Pick 2 from Devourer/Athexx/Magic/DrippingGoofball/Verbal
Possibly one in mastin2/weareking/chrja.
Possibly AP or Taylor.

This is where the mafia are. We are lynching Athexx today and Verbal tomorrow, and then moving on to the rest.
I did not dismiss the logic, I said I did not follow it and asked for it to be made clear a couple of times. The parsed list looks artificial too me, which would make it an attempt at misdirection.

And I did not bother to look up the posts, they made it clear. Tony vouched for MNO, MNO vouched for Tony, that = masons. You say well maybe they are lovers? So what? It is still a claim and any town with a clue says, hey, don't lynch them today. Not "make them get more specific" and not "lynch them anyways"
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09-08-2013 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by weareking
I'd go Infidel/Devourer/Verbal, Athexx is bad Foolish is ok but there's better targets to go on. If by some reason it comes down to Athexx vs Foolish I'll have to vote Foolish but I won't like it.
Exactly this imo
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09-08-2013 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by marvellosity
if you vote Foolish ahead of Athexx I'll wring your scrawny neck
Then you better make sure the lynch doesn't come down to these two!
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09-08-2013 , 06:16 PM
Verbal/Infidel/Athexx, admittedly this is shaped by my townread on Foolish
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09-08-2013 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by weareking
Then you better make sure the lynch doesn't come down to these two!
wtf do you think i was doing when i came back to the thread earlier? lol
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09-08-2013 , 06:17 PM
Then compromise and vote infidel and everyone wins
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09-08-2013 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Foolishness
What about this post he made not too long ago?
Weak post yes but seems more like difference of opinion/not reading the game to realize I did indeed vote Devourer despite like 5 votes on you.
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09-08-2013 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by marvellosity
wtf do you think i was doing when i came back to the thread earlier? lol
I'm just making it clear. Much like you would vote Infidel as a last resort to save Foolish from a lynch, I will as a last resort vote Foolish to save Athexx from a lynch. I said I didn't like it because if the votes don't go on one of Infidel/Devourer/Verbal I'm going to be annoyed.

Better yet votes on 2 of them would be good, but I doubt the lynch comes down to 2 of these 3, too many votes on Foolish and not enough people looking like they'll change.
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09-08-2013 , 06:20 PM
(why do I pick the wrong time to have breakfast)
marvel... You really cant read me can you...
Ill add some more thoughts, but at the moment, I'll need a reread on verbal
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