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09-05-2013 , 04:18 PM
vote Giga13

It's still possible both MNOWAX and Tony are mafia, but its looking rather unlikely right now. Regardless, they are a poor first day lynch. Switching to Giga13. With MNOWAX now town to me, and by proxy Nana7 who was strongly pushing people away from him, I now have no suspicious people in that vote pool, so even though I personally don't have a strong scum read on Giga13, I'm ok with throwing my vote in there.
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09-05-2013 , 04:19 PM
And yeah, MNOWAX appears to be a pretty bad lynch today.
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09-05-2013 , 04:21 PM
Giga13

All the cool kids are doing it.
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09-05-2013 , 04:21 PM
Yea they both become unlynchable today for sure if mnowax really did leave a code. I'm on,my,phone and haven't checked but I assume so.
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09-05-2013 , 04:23 PM
It really annoys me that MNOWAX claims that Tony didn't claim Vanilla, when he pretty obviously did.

But at the same time, it's fairly obvious that they are masons. Unvote, Vote Marvellosity
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09-05-2013 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TaylorFitz
There's no way scum would fake claim masons. That's a really bad gambit to run.
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DrippingGoofball has fake claimed masons with a scumbuddy before, actually.
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09-05-2013 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by traz
Cool story?

I'm not here to give you warm and fuzzies
I know that, you could say im somewhat implying the halfway rule, but I'm (somewhat suprised) at a loss, as to why things like you commanding and goofballs no substance posts are being accepted???does no one else see anything wrong with this??? (*cough* chrja)
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09-05-2013 , 04:28 PM
If they really decided to tie their fates together on day 1 of a game this size as evils then I'm sure we can indulge them for a while.

However, we ought to pressure them to actually claim whether it's lovers or masons that they are claiming, just on the chance that they are faking and that we have villagers who can counterclaim.
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09-05-2013 , 04:29 PM
I'm going to repost part of what I said earlier about Giga:
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Originally Posted by Foolishness
Here is the post again:


Giga did take a stance. At the beginning of the day Taylor was posting the most and people were suspicious of him for the reason of posting. If you read Taylor's posts, he didn't do anything that screams suspicion. Sure, he was a bit trolly in some posts, but he wasn't pushing an agenda or being incongruent. Now, this doesn't mean that Taylor isn't mafia, but the votes and suspicion against him at the beginning of the game should only be taken with a grain a salt.

Giga said this then said that Taylor hasn't done worth anything fingering suspicion over. Then Giga says that pizzaguy is town both on a gut read and because of his playstyle. Then Giga says that he has a town read on Binkies because he's putting himself out there and accusing a variety of people.

It's the fact that Giga is consistent and direct with his reads that makes him town. He's not a good lynch at all, nor is there a good case against him.
He hasn't posted in the past 30 hours, but the case against him is incredibly sloppy. Nobody has posted more than 1 paragraph (I'm probably being nice here too) on why Giga should be lynched. This is absurd when we have oodles of evidence pointing against MNOWAX.

What has Giga done that is so damning? Yes, he said he was going to be slow at posting, and since he hasn't posted in a long while I can see why people want to punish him for going against his word. But what else is there? You can see from his posts that he's very concise in his thoughts and not afraid to speak his mind. Let me repost this again:
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Originally Posted by Giga13
Ok after reading everything here are my reads:

Taylor got a lot of attention early on and I think the reason for this was from past experience from other games, also because not many people were posting at that time that definitely contributed as well

I don't fos Taylor because of that and because most of Taylor's lines can be seen as null rather than something that definitely can scream town or scum.

Askthepizzaguy is ridiculously town. My gut tells me this and so does logic. He seems very open and unafraid, not hiding anything and I like his overall demeanor very much.

I also like Binkies for giving many reads early in the game. I feel like Mafia wouldn't attempt this from fear of getting challenged. But who knows, after all, this is a game of Mafia champions. My townread on Binkies isn't a strong one.
He says what's on his mind, and he says it with such certainty. Mafia don't make such strong commitments like that with their reads.

The Giga lynch is too easy

I want to remind people of the following post made last night, should be obvious why:
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Originally Posted by Anstonio
Aw c'mon Nana, that's a low blow. The reason I can't explain it is because it's day 1 and too early to be outing the villagers. Of all people I thought you would understand that. I can't be giving info to the baddies. I already said too much and that's it so go dig somewhere else.
Furthermore, with so little time left in the day, anyone who is trying to deflect the vote away from Giga and MNO should be immediately scrutinized for trying to mislead the town (Murska).
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09-05-2013 , 04:29 PM
We can push them tomorrow.
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09-05-2013 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by soah
If they really decided to tie their fates together on day 1 of a game this size as evils then I'm sure we can indulge them for a while.

However, we ought to pressure them to actually claim whether it's lovers or masons that they are claiming, just on the chance that they are faking and that we have villagers who can counterclaim.
soah

I shouldn't even have to explain
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09-05-2013 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AngryPidgeon
Mnowax crumbed Anstonio's name in his first 2 posts, so basically they are masons or pulling a crazy scum gambit (much less likely).

Anyone voting Mnowax should probably reconsider that vote.

--

Really want to flashwagon Foolishness, but worried about deadline.
wtf
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09-05-2013 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by soah
If they really decided to tie their fates together on day 1 of a game this size as evils then I'm sure we can indulge them for a while.

However, we ought to pressure them to actually claim whether it's lovers or masons that they are claiming, just on the chance that they are faking and that we have villagers who can counterclaim.
Sounds like a plan, out useless tourneys, good idea.
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09-05-2013 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by fank009
I know that, you could say im somewhat implying the halfway rule, but I'm (somewhat suprised) at a loss, as to why things like you commanding and goofballs no substance posts are being accepted???does no one else see anything wrong with this??? (*cough* chrja)
My job is to find wolves... not poor posters, stupid people, mean folks, or anything else
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09-05-2013 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by AngryPidgeon
DrippingGoofball has fake claimed masons with a scumbuddy before, actually.
This is why you can't assume anything, only assign weighted probabilities
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09-05-2013 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AngryPidgeon
4 MNOWAX Foolishness (7), traz (34), TheMango (7), Cyan (5)

Mastin, does this wagon look town led to you?
In a word?
YES.

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traz is meh.
Again. Town-you wouldn't be like this. Traz is awesome, and quite obviously so.

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Originally Posted by AngryPidgeon
Mastin, are you telling me or reassuring yourself? The mastin I know has trust in my reads yet is unwilling to even post the damned pizzaguy case for me that I asked for TWICE. The only hypocritical thing in this thread is you questioning why Im not respecting your reads and simultaneously calling me scum because of mine.

You are basing your world view ENTIRELY around me being scum . ****, I asked you about Verbal to see if you'd help me explore a gut feel to his posts, and you never even acknowledged I made it. But Im scum and not reaching out.
I am not reassuring myself, because I am quite certain of it. I have explained the heart behind the pizza case, AND the reason that I haven't posted it (because I don't have the time until this game is in night). I trust your reads--when they are actually things I can see.

But this? This is not the town you. This is not the AP I know and love that I can work with and synch up with. You're scumreading players I'm townreading, and townreading every single scumread I've been pushing, pretty much. There's zero compatibility this game. And that is something I've never seen from you as town. But it IS something I know comes from the scum-you.

I would be happy to be proven wrong. Believe me, I would be. I would be overjoyed if you were town. But. I. am. not. seeing. the. town. you. At all.

Fank's posts on page 37 are actually pretty dang town. Liking Magic for town as well.

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Originally Posted by AngryPidgeon
Urgh, mastin is gonna be right about Fank isn't he.
Probably not. Just like Taylor and Nana both moved to town, I'm thinking fank will, too. He's not there, yet (he's at null), but he's certainly not a scumread anymore.

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Originally Posted by Nana7
The top of my kill list would be Angry, Pizza, Verbal, those are the 3 I think most likely to be wolves. Angry for not adapting his read on me, Pizza for doing what he said he would do as wolf, Verbal for what I see as whacky reason to vote me.

Angry's vote on Giga is what pushed me off that vote. Not sure what I think of Dripping either.
Aside from the potential-sheeping of me, this is, once again, ridiculously town.

Through 40.
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09-05-2013 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Nana7
In MNO's first two posts, the first letter of each sentence spells out Anstonio.

Pretty clever little clue there. How did you find that?
He pointed it out himself; he said to read his first two posts.

I can also see that preemptive Vanilla claim from a town PR perspective trying to fly low.

Given that there is no way to accidentally 'no lynch' due to no majority, Foolishness

I'll revote Giga if it ends up between him and someone I dont want to lynch.
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09-05-2013 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by fank009
Sounds like a plan, out useless tourneys, good idea.
Well if they are not wolves then they are already outed ...
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09-05-2013 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by fank009
Sounds like a plan, out useless tourneys, good idea.
Townies , not tourneys
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09-05-2013 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Foolishness
Furthermore, with so little time left in the day, anyone who is trying to deflect the vote away from Giga and MNO should be immediately scrutinized for trying to mislead the town (Murska).
You think that one of the two wagons is absolutely atrocious, but anyone trying to look elsewhere is suspicious? It's not possible that anyone might have a different idea of who is the best lynch for today?
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09-05-2013 , 04:34 PM
MASTIN THAT WAGON IS ON A MASON CLAIM THAT WAS CRUMBED IN HIS FIRST TWO POSTS.

Also, ya I realize Im running low on posts : P

I think Im ok though.
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09-05-2013 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TaylorFitz
soah

I shouldn't even have to explain
actually, you really do
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09-05-2013 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMango
vote Giga13

It's still possible both MNOWAX and Tony are mafia, but its looking rather unlikely right now. Regardless, they are a poor first day lynch. Switching to Giga13. With MNOWAX now town to me, and by proxy Nana7 who was strongly pushing people away from him, I now have no suspicious people in that vote pool, so even though I personally don't have a strong scum read on Giga13, I'm ok with throwing my vote in there.
I like you. My mind worked in much the same way. Could we be related? More on that later.

Unvote
Vote: Giga
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09-05-2013 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by traz
My job is to find wolves... not poor posters, stupid people, mean folks, or anything else
traz what exactly are you doing???
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09-05-2013 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by fank009
traz what exactly are you doing???
Finding wolves, you?
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