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01-10-2013 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
Señor

If you waste your time rereading Noah overnight, you are worse than gtpitch

My wolf team ATM


Sun Tzu
Gtpitch
Starazzz
Tappokone


Tbob is a villager
That's fine. Doing it anyway. Don't care if I'm bad.

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Originally Posted by McAvoy
Seer needs to think about the end game wolf tonight. Don't waste a peek on someone like señor / gtpitch, they are never w/w and one spews the other clear.


Peek someone like tappokone
You say this without any indication of why this spew would be the case.

Also, you never clarified why rebonk voting Sun makes mets a villager. You said something nonsensical about Sun being able to maj himself without any comment on what that says about mets.
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01-10-2013 , 06:37 PM
Round guy

Who do you think is wolfier: sun Tzu or starzz?

Who woul you prefer to lynch and why?
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01-10-2013 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by starrazz
video fluff response
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Originally Posted by starrazz
Because turbos favor villagers, and in non-turbos the long nights like this game esp with a PoR favor wolves or so I've heard and that makes sense to me but I'm not whining about anything just was making small talk.
More turbo fluff but I took note of the bolded:

I tend to think it's villagery. You could say that 'I'm not whining about anything' could be a wolf trying not to get involved in anything or draw attention to himself, but given his talk/bitching about the rand (and that being inline with things he's said in other games where he was a villager) I kind of read it more 'I'm not continuing my whine about the rand'.

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Originally Posted by starrazz
threat of video at waking up to votes
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Originally Posted by starrazz
MQ
Here he is going through and quoting people's posts and commenting on them. He's upgrading his Senor lean from the vote earlier, and calling people out when he sees it. Hard to really read through his posts because no-one has seen a long wolf game from him yet so I don't really know what to be looking for beyond the generic, but I think this is good. As a couple people already pointed out, even though he's not posting much and causing concern with that, when he is here, he does seem to be taking strong stances with things, just calling his villagers villagers straight up and his wolves wolves straight up.


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Originally Posted by starrazz
some other stuff, but mainly coming at LKJ
I think this is good in that I'm pretty sure at the time he's made this vote LKJ and I have circled around each other and I've voted him, but I'm not really continuing the push very vocally, so this post at LKJ is stronger and slightly less of a sponge looking back, and more a hard statement of his own feelings and sponging as a by product. Meh, not sure what to think overall.

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Originally Posted by starrazz
another big MQ
More of what I pointed out earlier in that he's still interacting with a lot of people/different posts, maybe not in real time but he certainly doesn't seem to be shying away from commenting on a lot of things as he sees them. Again, hard to know how to balance these observations with the overall concern that his posting has dropped off but there it is. I also like his comment to mets about RG. Right or wrong, his tone sounds strong and I would think that first time wolfing it would be harder to interject at someone else's voting like that?

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Originally Posted by starrazz
I'm biased cuz he voted me, but just because someone votes for me doesn't mean I find them uber-wolfy. So while you vote me and I find you villagery in the grand scheme of your posting, mcavoy votes me and I find him very wolfy in the grand scheme of his posting, which you helpfully provided here. I am more than happy to join a mcavoy wagon at this point. It's frustrating that my reads are so thin, but that's just how it goes early on. I'm sticking with my current vote on tappo in agreement with noah's perspective on it.
Standing up for his vote, also good I think.

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Originally Posted by starrazz
noah, vote mcavoy please...I still like your tappo read tho
Asking for my vote.

Meh, the other wall of text I did for the first part of his posts didn't fill me with joy. This section of it though looking back in more detail is a lot better than I went back expecting it to be. I'm still pretty concerned that he hasn't posted yet and not sure how to balance the things I said above with his disappearance re: it would be his first wolf game here, but it's not as alarming as I thought it would be re-read wise.

I think I still support votes on him 1) to pressure him to post and 2) because I think a lot of things I noted here will be closer to overridden if we continue not to hear from him through EOD.
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01-10-2013 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Senor Cardgage
Also, you never clarified why rebonk voting Sun makes mets a villager. You said something nonsensical about Sun being able to maj himself without any comment on what that says about mets.
So you think they are w/w?
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01-10-2013 , 06:42 PM
mets - awesome

vixticator - n0 peek vil

UAW710 - n1 peek vil

McAvoy - will be super impressed if hes a wolf

Noah -
tone very villagery

Senor Cardgage -
feel better about him. think he responded to pressure decently gtpitch - i am conflicted on. he is posting strangely. but i dont know if wolf pitch defends nutshot the way he did. if nutshot flipped wolf id be all over pitch

LKJ/hardcore
meh. probably a villager. lkj would have to have a huge set to fakepeek wolf as a wolf. hardcore has been meh, but at least he unclaimed seer

Slighted -
very immemorable. probably a poe candidate

rebonkulous -
i still feel like his reactions are fake. like he is being a characterture of himself. but i dont think he is w/w with sun. i have other ideas to explain it. but i will wait to see what sun flips

tappokone - nfi

TBobLP - probably being cleared too lightly. although he is allegedly a good wolf. he didnt impress me in the one game i saw him wolf recently. and if hes a wolf here he isnt impressive


RoundGuy -
i am trying not to tunnel. i still think he had tmi in his posts. but im done arguing about him

starrazz - different than other games

J.D./sun - probably a wolf. if hes a villa i insta want to thunderdome rebonk. not joking.

in order

enjoy
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01-10-2013 , 06:43 PM
sun tzu
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01-10-2013 , 06:44 PM
Bleh, that re-read was lazy. I'm really starting to feel the restriction on my usual posting style in not being able to fire out these thoughts as and when in smaller posts.

Cliffs

I am now alarmed by starrazz's lack of presence in the thread and support votes on him to pressure him to post at the very least, but there were some things I saw on re-read that were villagery for him in a vacuum, less so in the context of his participation so far.

Mini-cliffs

#hedging
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01-10-2013 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
So you think they are w/w?
Mets and Sun or mets and rebonk?

If you mean mets/Sun, then why does rebonk's vote on Sun make Sun a wolf?

Feel free to call me bad or whatever, but I have NO IDEA what you're going on about.
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01-10-2013 , 06:47 PM
Everyone look at señor & grpitch's reaction to me calling them terrible for having a villa lean on Noah, senor'a reaction was villagery, I'm gonna reread him tonight anyway. That is a villager mindset.

Now compare to gtpitch, who was more confrontational.


Señor,

That is an example of why I so some of unorthodox things I do.
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01-10-2013 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Senor Cardgage
Mets and Sun or mets and rebonk?

If you mean mets/Sun, then why does rebonk's vote on Sun make Sun a wolf?

Feel free to call me bad or whatever, but I have NO IDEA what you're going on about.
So you think Sun and mets are w/w? Yes or No
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01-10-2013 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
roundguy
if you move your vote off me and promise not to put it on the rest of the day i will translate for you
Not going to happen. I made my case in post #838 that you're either a really stupid villager, or a wolf. People can agree with my logic, or not. Whatever.

I don't know how to play this game. You do. Which is why I don't think you're a really stupid villager.

Thus, my vote stands.


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Originally Posted by McAvoy
Round guy
Who do you think is wolfier: sun Tzu or starzz?
Who woul you prefer to lynch and why?
I've thought starzz was weird from the beginning, but that just may be starzz being starzz. I have no opinion on sun other that he's disappeared (just like starzz, apparently) but I'm not making the low post count mistake again.

I'm sticking with mets for the duration.
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01-10-2013 , 06:54 PM
tbob
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01-10-2013 , 06:56 PM
gtpitch
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01-10-2013 , 06:59 PM
i think you guys calling starrazz a wolf are probably wrong. i get the whole he looked excited an all at first and now realized how tough it is argument...but i dont think it applies to starrazz. he has shown that he never really knows what should or shouldnt happen in ww, or what is or isnt villagery/wolfy. As a result, i dont think he ever comes to a point as wolf where he is like "argh this is exhausting" and then gives up. he will probably just keep posting aidsy and be obliviously wolfy as **** having no idea how wolfy he is being. Why do you think starrazz would understand the complexity of what it takes to be a non wolfy wolf in a long game having no experience with it, and a perceived denseness when it comes to ww in general?
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01-10-2013 , 07:00 PM
you people do not lynch mets today either.

you lynched nutshot and i didnt rage really at all

you lynch mets and i rage forevermore
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01-10-2013 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RoundGuy
Not going to happen. I made my case in post #838 that you're either a really stupid villager, or a wolf. People can agree with my logic, or not. Whatever.

I don't know how to play this game. You do. Which is why I don't think you're a really stupid villager.

Thus, my vote stands.




I've thought starzz was weird from the beginning, but that just may be starzz being starzz. I have no opinion on sun other that he's disappeared (just like starzz, apparently) but I'm not making the low post count mistake again.

I'm sticking with mets for the duration.
This is the best example of tunneling ever.
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01-10-2013 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Noah
tbob
no

if you really thought i was a wolf you would vote me a long time ago. i cant help that i have to work
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01-10-2013 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
So you think Sun and mets are w/w? Yes or No
I don't have a particular read on mets yet, honestly. Probably not w/w, no, but I skimmed over their tiff from earlier, so meh.

Go on and explain the rest of the logic, plz. Sun being in a position to hammer himself doesn't mean he will or that he's a wolf. So why did rebonk's Sun vote clear mets?
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01-10-2013 , 07:03 PM
Seer should peek one of


Rebonkulous, tappokone or vixticator if you have any doubts about him.
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01-10-2013 , 07:03 PM
sun is most likely to be a wolf of those in question.
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01-10-2013 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
I peeked Sun Tzu wolf
(Unless I claim otherwise later)
(No don't maj lynch him)
(Not a hard claim)
This sounds about right.

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Originally Posted by Noah
Roundguy
The only thing worse than this is a vote for me, which you then do shortly. But it worked as an unintentional tarp, as I will point out later.

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Originally Posted by vixticator
RG votes are beyond awful
agreed

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Originally Posted by Senor Cardgage
This still bothers me a little bit. Heh. This post makes it sound like this game is going to be some kind of new experience for you- at first, I thought maybe you hadn't played any non-turbos. But you have. Apparently you haven't wolfed in any, though? So... that bothers me.



You seem concerned about people wagoning you early on, which makes me a little suspicious-face at you suspicious-face-ing me for disliking your first post. So... yeah. A bit wolfy.



Maybe I kinda understand how multiple people have used the word "spaz" for you- not calling you that, just saying that maybe the RoundGuy/TBob uses were just coincidence. Iunno.



This sounds a little "btw-I-know-mets-is-a-villa". Few small wolf points here.



Some Noah love in this post. Not sure what to make of it without knowing either role.



Noting the LKJ vote here.



Do you still hold the same opinion on RoundGuy? Also, more Noah love, still not sure what to make of it. Likely it's not game-specific, otherwise it'd be waaaaay too in-your-face.



By this point, you happen to think LKJ is a villager. Do you remember how/when your opinion on him changed? I'd honestly really like to know this.



Snipping this to note the tappo read.



Has your tappo read changed? If so, can you pinpoint why?

Thoughts on star: ...do. not. know. I feel like having previous experience with him would go a long way towards helping here.

Star: on re-read, a good portion of your reads seem kinda... sponged, I guess. Can you go into detail on tappo (like I mentioned above) and mets, since you're voting him? I'm asking as someone who doesn't really know how to read mets. Halps me.
I don't know why on Tappo...I just haven't seen anything villagery by mets and I feel really good about a mets vote, can't quite put my point on it, but see following.

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Originally Posted by Senor Cardgage
Meh, clearly the only one awake now. Gonna be back in the afternoon. If I multiquoted your crap, I probably asked you a couple questions or brought up a couple points in there. So actually read it and respond plz. ty. nice person.
I don't know what to say, it took too long to read all the very long posts and now I don't have time to respond properly before EOD especially since I am working right now but should be free the last 45 minutes to elaborate further.

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Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO
gtpitch
sun tzu
UAW
xxxxxxxx


sponging tappo's case on UAW. on re-read he looks fairly wolfy.
I don't like a UAW vote but otherwise decent picks here.

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Originally Posted by tappokone
Theory: Sun is pissed that his team is bussing him, so he lists them here. Would explain things like no one in Mets/Vix/Noah dying on n1, and Mets's unusually subdued response to Sun finding him wolfy. Discuss.
I couldn't quote your list here but I remember noting that this made sense.

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Originally Posted by RoundGuy
Ok, so, I'm not reacting to the little mini-wagon last night because I fully expected it by daring to push noah. I'm not voting him, because obviously you guys all think he's cool. I'm cool with that, but I'm still sleeping with one eye open.

There is something else that's been bugging me, though.

Mets has been on my ass since almost post 1. Why? If he honestly thinks I'm a noob wolf, and ESPECIALLY if he thinks I'm already spewing wolf-chat after the FIRST night, why in God's name would he want to lynch me this early in the game? Wouldn't he want to hear what I have to say after tonight, and the next night, and the next?

This makes no sense to me at all.

On the other hand, I can't think of any value that a noob villager would have to the wolves. Maybe there is, but I don't see it. Seems like I'd just be low-hanging fruit, right?

Do I look like low-hanging fruit to you, Mr. Wolf?

mets
This is right on the money. Metsandfinsfan

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Originally Posted by Noah
starrazz
I'm not a wolf, I had a great date and slept in and had to run errands and now Im at work. role neutral not omg onoez starr isn't having diarrhea of the mouth (in a POR game no less) so he must be woalfin.

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Originally Posted by gtpitch
I don't hate this - not one bit.

Tell me about it though because you were pretty certain he's a villager before, right?
iknowrite? but plz hate it. Wolf.

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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
sun and rebonk and starass are voting me

sun likely wolf
rebonk sucksat reading me
starazz likely wolf
and now you put me as lead wagon

who is the smarter player voting me?

who is smarter than me in the whole world actually?

roundguy

do you think sun is a wolf?
do you think starazz is clear? or rebonk?

who do you trust that you are sponging here?
mets and gtpitch spewing themselves as wolves from jumping on noah's vote for me which is ldo a tarp and being all doey-eyed at noah trying to draw him out even more committally to his vote...well now I know who 2 of the wolves are, you are so dead, and I already had my vote on mets and nobody's taking me off it and gt youre next baby

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Originally Posted by Noah
23? (Annie can we get a vote count soon, I'm losing track)



Not that it's a great reason to begin looking at someone but his post count is just off. I understand he was AFK last night I think (read in another thread) but there have been a couple times I've noticed him being around and not posting here (not that there is anything wrong with that either). starrazz is an uber enthusiastic villager, not afraid to open his mouth, get into the thick of it, say whatever. Where are his posts? 4th day and second game day and he has a total of 28? Definitely out of character for him. I'm still in the middle of reading back over his posts so I'll make another post about it, but his start was mostly what I would have expected with regard to slightly weird/out there posts etc. I didn't take his opening to be particularly strange for him like some others did. I didn't even really mind the sponging all that much, I've seen him do it as a villager more than once. But the trend of things that made me (and probably others) have him as a villager has dropped off completely, and he has become someone who both isn't posting as expected and that no-one is talking about.
I addressed this see above.

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Originally Posted by tappokone
Starr is a d1 JD voter. That means he should never, ever be lynched before Sun.

I mean, Sun flipping wolf wouldn't clear Starr forever, because sometimes wolves bus, but it does mean that he should at least make it to the mid-to-late PoE stage.
wisdom...tappo super sneaky wolf or villaging, one of the 2

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Originally Posted by McAvoy
There is a wolf between UAW & starazzz about 95% of the time


They are better lunches today


They have less posts and mets / sun will spew more than those 2 so giving them an extra day is +EV plus with peeks likely being resolved tonight, forcing the issue gets us less info


Mets on d1 you were wolfier than JD

On d2, sun is wolfier than you.


People already drew their lines in the sand.


We have it on record


UAW & starazzz should be equally as wolfy as sun from your perspective if you are a villa.

Why you not want to lynch them?
mcavoy tunneling me with no substantive analysis. standard

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Originally Posted by gtpitch
starrazz
let the mislynch begin, says his fellow wolf, they'll never think were wolves if I pipe right in after you, go head first into it, they said in wolf chat Im guessing *puke*

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Originally Posted by McAvoy
starazz

W/w wagons imo


Mets probably clear now with that rebonk vote
establish conventional wisdom, get some momentum going, make it up out of thin air if necessary just wagon the starspazzzzzzz

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Originally Posted by Senor Cardgage
Is maj - 2 seriously such a big deal in a slow game?

unvote but if it's between Sun and mets I'm still voting Sun at EOD.

And I have star slightly on the wolfy end of things. I'm still waiting for him to respond to a couple of things from my reread of him, I think.
youre villaging I'm villaging calm down

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Originally Posted by McAvoy
Señor

If you waste your time rereading Noah overnight, you are worse than gtpitch

My wolf team ATM


Sun Tzu
Gtpitch
Starazzz
Tappokone


Tbob is a villager
well at least you have tbob right

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Originally Posted by RoundGuy
Not going to happen. I made my case in post #838 that you're either a really stupid villager, or a wolf. People can agree with my logic, or not. Whatever.

I don't know how to play this game. You do. Which is why I don't think you're a really stupid villager.

Thus, my vote stands.




I've thought starzz was weird from the beginning, but that just may be starzz being starzz. I have no opinion on sun other that he's disappeared (just like starzz, apparently) but I'm not making the low post count mistake again.

I'm sticking with mets for the duration.
and so am I

mets mets mets
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01-10-2013 , 07:08 PM
Annie or anyone able to run the counter currently, can we get a count please?
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01-10-2013 , 07:10 PM
sum Tzu

Stats lol

Tbob

Maj it to prevent shenanigans, I have to work
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01-10-2013 , 07:11 PM
pitch
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01-10-2013 , 07:12 PM
I wish Sun would at least come say he's a wolf or something
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