Between Noah and Slighted (who both I had as better than random to be villagers) finding you suspicious and a villager - that's me - voting for you, wolves should find your wagon an inviting place to park their votes if you're a villager. As far as forming reads go, it's mostly something I might be able to use late in games, when I know either your role or your voters' roles. Like, I didn't decide that you're a wolf just because no wagon formed.

Lynching Sun might help with that. I mean, you can argue who looks wolfier, JD or Pitch, but given that JD was a wagon at EoD - and that he plays a pretty straightforward, pro-wolf wolf game, I think - Sun is by far the better information lynch.

I said the same thing yesterday, saying you would rather be lynched is wolfy in that its a thing I see wolves saying - also stuff like "lynching me is good for the village" etc, none of it is actually true but it sounds pseudo-villagery.

JD had a few peculiar posts about me - expects me to solve the game, and was paranoid that I wanted to lynch him. I don't see how the way he voted for nutshot makes him a wolf though.

***DEAD***

When I wished for an early exit I didnt really mean it Maybe next time I can last longer if Tbob drags me in to a game.

And maybe I wont get an infraction when the filter doesnt do its job...

***DEAD***

Look, I'm not going to spend the next 30-hours defending my vote, or choice of words, so let's just get it done.

If I recall, the rebonk wagon was still on, and he was my vote. But I really had no solid "reason" for it. On the other hand, the fact that nutshot signed up and put forth ZERO effort in a day and a half really pissed me off. I just thought it was a big middle finger to the spirit of the game.

As far as my "get lucky" comment, it was perfectly honest. How did any of us know at the time that he WASN'T a wolf?

So, that's that. You will find that when I post, I just say what's on my mind. I have no idea what a villager or wolf would say in any given situation. So, I can assure you, it will happen again. GL me.

Moving on, I have some random questions about JD's sub:

1.Would a wolf really leave the game right after finding out his team just scored?
2.Did he assume he would just be wagoned again on d2, and was hoping someone else could turn it around?
3.Did his hamster die and he just couldn't carry on?

Just seems weird to me if he was/is a wolf. Or does this sub thing happen all the time? Maybe I'm reading too much into the whole thing.

I'm also struggling with the seer peeks thing. Are we thinking that the wolves thought IHOP was the seer? Is that why people are looking for clues in his prior posts? Is mets off the hook because it seems that LKJ was wrong about peeking him wolf? Or is something else going on?

I need a nap.

Uaw, we need to talk.

Could you talk about why you found the same approach wolfy from Mac and villagery from Mets? 'Cause I'm worried it's because Mets is more difficult to lynch than Mac.

It also seems like you're making generic reads in this game even on people with well-defined metas, e.g. you're clearing Noah because you can't see "a wolf" making his reads post.

So you make the above post and Vix asks you to give reads on a couple of other people. Just five minutes after everybody else was neutral, it turns out you have leans on all the people Vix mentioned:

I guess you could argue that your read on me was neutral, but with Pitch for example you came up with a solid villager lean. It seems to me that you were either untruthful in saying everyone else was neutral in your first reads post, or you manufactured reads when asked to.

Are you wolfing? 'Cause it seems to me you might be wolfing.

Tbob,

Lol you that is all

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I'm not sure we can get anything solid by looking for fake peeks from IHOP based on the "not leaving my peek" stuff. I think he said he hasn't played much, which would mean he'd be unlikely as a strong player kill as well. He seemed to be going after rebonk pretty hard, FWIW. I don't think there was anything peek-like in his rebonk-related posts, though.

I find it odd that LKJ posting a mets=wolf peek stood out to you so much. How come? And no, mets isn't off the hook just because somebody who claimed a wolf peek of him didn't die. Even if LKJ is a seer candidate for them, they can't kill every seer candidate at night.

Do you have any opinions on mets's role?

As for J.D.'s subbing out, he posted earlier that he was on his "deathbed" and that he could "barely even talk". He was just too sick to play.

People subbing out is common. A few people do it more often when they're in a bad spot in a game or playing a role they don't like, but for most it's role neutral, I'd say.

Just as villagers hunt for wolves during the day, wolves hunt for the seer during the night, because the longer the seer lives, the more information he can pass on to other villagers. When the wolves kill a villager, it often means that the fake peeks he left were correct. Sometimes it means that wolves want villagers to think the peeks were correct, i.e. the killed player left a villager peek on a wolf.

Lkj living through the night is a point in Mets's favor, but he isn't clear. Wolves may pass on killing Lkj even if Mets is a wolf. Lkj might be a wolf himself.

Someone who has a computer and wants to wolf hunt should compare the last slow game and compare how UAW's game there to this one.
Actually Noah I'm looking you
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If you read my multiquote (and subsequent posts) regarding UAW from yesterday, you'll note that I saw pretty much all the same things. He strikes me as a little wolfy. Regarding the "extra" reads after Vix's prodding, though, turns out that's not suspicious at all. I checked out a couple of his past games and he did literally the exact same "here are my reads", "what about x, y, z?", "ok here are reads on them, too" thing as a villager.

I am in a bad mood and the hall of fame vote did NOT help it

somebody give me someone to mq

JD, please.

Did he say something akin to, "Other than that everybody else is neutral to me so far"? That's the bit that wasn't true.

Hm. I suppose you have a point. In the example I found before I got tired of reading through his stuff, he'd only listed the people he had reads on, not specifically called the rest neutral.

I guess the neutral thing changes it slightly, but it honestly doesn't bother me too much. (Don't get me wrong, I still have my eye on UAW. I'm just not ready to string him up.)

I only noticed it because of this mets rant at the end:

I don't know what FPS is, but the rest got me curious so I looked back at LKJ's posts about mets. I seem to be focusing on mets, too much probably, for whatever reason.

Other than he's a blowhard? No, I really have no idea how he plays the game, and he's all over the board, all the time. That said, I'd have no problem with someone convincing me he's a wolf.

The thread has been unusually subdued today even though the villagers we lost overnight didn't post that much. Wolves are obviously in hiding from my awesome powers of deduction.

Noah, I'm outta here for the night. Talk to you tomorrow.

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I'll get on this later, was actually thinking about it yesterday. Which game was it?

Sorry about that tappo, my reveal took way longer than expected, only just finished it. I'll leave questions etc in the thread for you overnight and otherwise catch up with you tomorrow.

Still want to pressure utr players. Still think that'll result in success for long term interests of the game. Sort by people not posting, vote for UAW.

havent caught up, still at work. so basically ill be doing mad work yo tonight

MAC CHANGE YOUR ****ING VOTE

or i will write a song about you and it will be super emo

on an unrelated note...i am having regular bowel movements for the first time in my life. it's weird. maybe it has to do with having the same schedule every week now, eating lunch/dinner at the same times. whatever it is i basically take a **** between 5:30-8 almost every day now.

ok back to work

If I'm the seer I peeked a waffle to be named later
Or I peeked IHOP and lolme

You realize that this will motivate me to keep my vote on you, don't you?

Your not even close to being wagonned, I was just voting you to hold you accountable for your promise.

I don't want to vote UAW until he posts.

I'm gonna help noah by finding the slow game with UAW game I am talking about.

noah, I went all the way back to October and couldn't find the slow game with UAW, it must be even older than that.