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01-16-2012 , 04:38 PM
It really just feels like CDL was a scheduled mislynch. If I'm a wolf I figure we're gonna get iversonian lynched anyway, might as well try to prolong the survival of everyone else. Maybe wolves noticed Luckay angling at CDL and decided to sort of let him guide that. Makes CDL pushers look especially bad.
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01-16-2012 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
Maybe McAvoy noticed Luckay angling at CDL and decided to sort of let him guide that.
yeah, that happened

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Originally Posted by LuckayLuck
I propose that CalledDownLight gets lynched today.
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
LUckay


CDL
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
HOW OFTEN DO ME & LUCKALY LUCK VOTE THE SAME PERSON?



vote cdl for profit
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01-16-2012 , 04:41 PM
I didn't do a good job paying attention to iversonian on d2. I leveled myself re-reading a turbo and thinking my tone read wasn't really valid because he seemed wolfy there as a villager (I had tried to lynch him in it)

That and the standard hurf durrr noah was a wolf guess I suck thing
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01-16-2012 , 04:42 PM
I think I'm satisfied that Mac has to be lynched and it can't be wrong in any possible universe, even if he flips villager.
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01-16-2012 , 04:45 PM
mcavoy
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01-16-2012 , 04:46 PM
McAvoy

good enough for me
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01-16-2012 , 04:46 PM
WN is a villager and should be treated as seer cleared
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01-16-2012 , 04:47 PM
I need to eat something but I'll be back and do as much as I can in this game since it should be my last day
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01-16-2012 , 04:48 PM
I'm not as convinced that MAjing is good.
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01-16-2012 , 04:50 PM
Canwe get 1 or 2 unvotes so nothing stupid happens before Sun gets to contribute?
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01-16-2012 , 04:51 PM
unvote
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01-16-2012 , 04:52 PM
unvote
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01-16-2012 , 04:58 PM
Back from lunch and up to date.


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Originally Posted by Anarchist
Since I'm not around all day, there will be no majority lynch until must lynch. Normal must lynch rules will apply.
Mcavoy
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01-16-2012 , 04:59 PM
oh, my bad

mcavoy
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01-16-2012 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Wizard-50
yeah Hoya Iversonian and I were w/w in that turbo which is why i want to reread him before eod. just finished rereading the turbo, and i dont have much more to go on than you. we only used pm to talk cuz i didnt have time to dl and setup skype before the turbo started. No clue what frequency he claims self pres when he's a wagon at eod, but I think combined with his posting here on d1 it's enough to go with.

iversonian

be back in ~hr my friend is going to be here any minute.
++++village points

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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
ok going afk for the night in 10 mins. i think calleddownlight is the best lynch but i wouldnt mind an iversonian one either

i think any other lynch tonight would be pretty bad.
I think this is a good post

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Originally Posted by iversonian
cphoya

He was on me all of yesterday and he knows I'm not cleared on many people's lists. I was #2 yesterday and knows he can very easily drive a wagon on me today. It also looks pretty good, since he had me and noah as potentially w/w, so he can totally tunnel on me. Of all the wolves that could be trying to drive villa to a mislynch, this seems likeliest. I don't know if I will get traction this late in the day though.
pretty obvious that hoya is a villager

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Originally Posted by Wizard-50
QFE. Pls read this if you haven't. Iversonian did the same thing in the turbo last night when we were w/w. When I got heat in the turbo he defended me. He does the same thing with Noah ITT. Iversonian should definitely be a wagon today.
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Originally Posted by iversonian
Didn't I bus you? I don't actually remember. But check what you just said against the fact that I had noah on a conditional not-vote. still wolfy, but will get on his wagon later after he starts posting.
More wizard is a villager

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Originally Posted by LuckayLuck
I propose that CalledDownLight gets lynched today.
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Originally Posted by LuckayLuck
I did

you made a solid case on Ivo
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
LUckay


CDL
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Originally Posted by LuckayLuck
Code:
IGSC, TCIBO
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Originally Posted by iversonian
I'm cracking this mother in the next 10 minutes..
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
all I know I don't want to lynch iversian, or wizard today or one other person that I can't remember.
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Originally Posted by captain binkles
Votes as of post 1741
Night in 00:03

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VotesLynchVoters
4 CalledDownLight McAvoy (28), Montecore (26), Sun Tzu (57), VarianceMinefield (37)
4 iversonian Aksdal (55), captain binkles (33), CPhoya (153), Wizard-50 (26)
2 Wizard-50 Gadarene (107), well named (64)
1 captain binkles LuckayLuck (24)
1 CPhoya iversonian (16)
1 Felix the Cat Andynan (36)
1 VarianceMinefield CalledDownLight (27)
1 not voting Felix the Cat (5)

:00 good :01 bad
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Originally Posted by iversonian
If i'm seer, my peeks are aksdal & luckay
I don't really know if it's possible to extract pat conclusions from the CDL wagon up until this point, but I'm quoting all these together because I want to try to sort through it a bit

a) I think it's wolfy for luckay to acknowledge that captain's case on iversonian is good, but yet also say things about how all of captain, vmf, and hoya are going to vote a villager (iversonian) while a wolf(CDL) gets lynched. I guess I didn't grab that post. It seems like an odd deflection

However, Iversonian leaving a fake seer claim with luckay in it, does that mean anything? Does it make it more likely that luckay is a villager? I'm not sure but I kind of think it might

b) I think mcavoy's aversion to the iversonian lynch is more straightforwardly wolfy then luckay's is, in that basically mcavoy never said anything substantive about his read on iversonian at all. He just was always and immediately dismissive. Nor did he really have any reason for wanting to lynch CDL that I can think of, although perhaps I should re-check

c) I don't know what Sun was thinking but I'm more or less hoping I can trust that andy peeked him so I don't have to think about it. I don't even remember montecore voting CDL so I can't say anything about it right now

d) As more evidence piles up for clearing people like wizard, cphoya, and captain binkles, the POE nature of our remaining lynches gets stronger
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01-16-2012 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by captain binkles
CDL
wait, what?
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01-16-2012 , 05:09 PM
I looked for an explanation of captain's CDL vote and I couldn't find one

I'm really surprised by that given everything else that happened earlier on in the day. I need to understand this
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01-16-2012 , 05:09 PM
Lock it up, Mac's a wolf.

From day 1:

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Originally Posted by CPHoya
Because on an emotional new villager level I do not understand any of his posts. The post I originally called "wolfy as ****" really is. His recent posts about being in over his head don't have the right tone to them. The right tone is "I wish I understood better" or "I'm trying to keep up" instead of admitting defeat and coasting?

It's just a tone read, there's no content but it's sticking in my brain.
This is me talking about iversonian.

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Originally Posted by McAvoy
this gives me a pretty big villa lean on hoya
This is mac responding to that post.

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Originally Posted by McAvoy
all I know I don't want to lynch iversian, or wizard today or one other person that I can't remember.
This is mac on day 2.

Is it even possible to form a pretty big villa lean on me for that post if you don't agree with the post? Even if it is, why would you hard-defend iversonian on day 2 if you thought a pretty big villager lean was pushing him?
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01-16-2012 , 05:11 PM
nice, that's nice

I get to be clear if mac is a wolf right?
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01-16-2012 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
nice, that's nice

I get to be clear if mac is a wolf right?
Me too, me too.
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01-16-2012 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
I looked for an explanation of captain's CDL vote and I couldn't find one

I'm really surprised by that given everything else that happened earlier on in the day. I need to understand this
I've thought Captain was wolfy all game long, but it's hard for me to reconcile him being a wolf with him making a big case on iversonian at the end of d1, unless he really just thought that saving Noah was that important.
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01-16-2012 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
I looked for an explanation of captain's CDL vote and I couldn't find one

I'm really surprised by that given everything else that happened earlier on in the day. I need to understand this
I remember this in real time. I was curious why captain would pile on CDL when he would get no cred if CDL flipped wolf, and possibly look bad if CDL flipped villa. After thinking about it for a little while I thought he may have been voting CDL just so that him and I werent voting the same person a second day in a row, because a few ppl were thinking that captain and I were w/w.
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01-16-2012 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by captain binkles
Sorry guys this is a bit rushed:


The list is from villageriest -> wolfiest. Peeks may or may not be included near the top or the bottom.

Villagey:
Aksdal - Has done an excellent job leading the village yesterday. Has constantly made insightful posts and tried to find wolves.

Felix the Cat - Is probably seer hunt cleared. I'm not going to give it as much credence as often I would though, given the lineup in this game.

Wizard - I had him as a wolf yesterday for not entering the thread with gusto, but since then he's been his usual friendly, fluffy self. He's also, as far as I remember, made some pretty insightful posts too, which I think is more indicative of his villager game. The turbo he modded in I thought a number of his posts just plain didn't make sense.

LuckayLuck - I think this new system is *insert fluttershy video* nice. It's nice to be able to see where certain people get villa points and wolf points. Made an excellent late vote on Noah which, at least for the moment, looks good.

Well-named - Has made a lot of sense today, and has been doing good work. He also complemented me and I'm pretty vain so of course he gets a villa lean.

Montecore - Is probably a villager on post count alone at this point. I'd like it if he started solving the game though instead of focusing on one or two players. Particularly players who I think/know are villagers.


Players who I'm not sure about (this list is in alphabetical order):
CPHoya - Voted Iversonian, but I think Iversonian is a wolf. Also, I don't think I can read him. I'll try and focus on him more tomorrow if we're both still around.

Gadarene - Made a great vote on a wolf yesterday. But I think some of his meta stuff, particularly on me, is incorrect.

McAvoy - Is currently sponging a terrible vote on me but I've heard he's pretty spazzy and stuff.

Sun Tzu - I like some of the work he's been doing, but I have the sneaky feeling that if I re-read him today he would actually have less content than I'd first thought. Also he left his vote off wagon yesterday.


Wolf Leans:

CalledDownLight - I re-read him and found some stuff wolfy and some stuff confusing. I'd like him to elaborate upon his reads and thoughts more in the future. Note I don't think CDL and VMF can be w/w.

VarianceMinefield - Not much has changed my opinion on him from yesterday. I tend to trust Aksdal here and he still thinks he's wolfy. Combine that with my re-read of him and I think he could be a wolf. Note I don't think CDL and VMF can be w/w.

Andynan - I want to see him do more work, and try to catch some wolves. Rather than voting the SHC player today of all days.

Iversonian - Read my case on him if you haven't.
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Originally Posted by captain binkles
The list is from villageriest -> wolfiest.

Villagey:
Aksdal - I still think he's put in excellent work all throughout the thread, he's such a villager in my eyes right now that I probably should re-read him.

Wizard - Has been re-reading well-named today. I hope to see the results of that today hopefully. I think on tone and content his game has been very similar to his recent pokemon game.

Montecore - He's been interacting, asking questions, posting his thoughts. He's been very pro-village and doing great work in my opinion.

Sun Tzu - He's been interacting well, and reading and analysing the thread really well. I think he is also probably peeked.

CPHoya - I'd like to see him post more, but it's been the weekend and he's been active in the thread for the last little while, and it's been 'good' activity. I also think he's probably peeked

Felix the Cat - I'm not a huge fan of the effort he's put in this game, but he is possibly seer hunt cleared? Without it I'd move him down.

Players who I'm not sure about (this list is in alphabetical order):

LuckayLuck - Had him as a villager earlier as a fakepeek, really I don't know. I liked parts of his interaction with Gadarene on day 1 upon re-read. The whole "I find CPHoya's push of Gadarene compelling" thing, that is.

McAvoy - I wish he'd post more, I feel he's been kinda quiet at the moment.

Well-named - I think he's been posting well. A lot of people have him as a wolf but I'm not sure if that's due to fear of his 'amazing wolf game' or from any real reads.

Wolf Leans:

VarianceMinefield - I still have a number of concerns on him based upon day 1. He also left a vote on CDL that had him flip villager. However VMF actually asserted today that he 'led' the CDL lynch. I think as a wolf he'd be trying to avoid that particular label.

Gadarene - Upon re-read of day 1 there was more I didn't like than I did. I don't like the way he's reacted to pressure from players like Luckay and Sun, but he's also going through a bad time right now apparently. However this is a small wolf lean right now, and I don't want to pursue his lynch until I re-read the last two days as well and get a better idea.

*huge gap*

Iversonian - Seems to basically be in anti-spew mode right now.

you know what happened between these two reads list?

captain sniped CDL over iversonian

I don't really see how a villager does this

I think it's possible that felix really is SHC and the wolf team is exactly mcavoy/captain binkles
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01-16-2012 , 05:19 PM
Not sure what to do. Suggestions? i might go finish my reread of WN if i cant think of something better, but wn has so many posts ugh
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01-16-2012 , 05:20 PM
If Captain Binkles is a wolf, I demand plaudits from all.
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