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10-24-2017 , 11:38 AM
I wasn't sure if this was a good fold or not. He could be bluffing, since fish likes to bluff on double paired boards, but I have a hard time seeing what kind of hand he gets there with that he would turn into a bluff. Perhaps a FD, but I block that, so calling without a heart K would be better.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 106.1 BB
SB: 105.9 BB (VPIP: 20.69, PFR: 20.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
BB: 100.2 BB (VPIP: 20.22, PFR: 17.49, 3Bet Preflop: 5.30, Hands: 374)
UTG: 298.1 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 19.64, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 58)
MP: 74.6 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
CO: 168.1 BB (VPIP: 22.48, PFR: 16.28, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 130)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, MP calls 6 BB

Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) 5 J 2
MP checks, Hero bets 6.1 BB, MP calls 6.1 BB

Turn: (31.7 BB, 2 players) 2
MP checks, Hero bets 16 BB, MP calls 16 BB

River: (63.7 BB, 2 players) J
MP bets 43.5 BB and is all-in, fold,
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10-24-2017 , 11:50 AM
Good fold imo. Fish just have it like 99.9% in these spots. Against a more reggish V I think we will have enough Jx and 2x to call for the rare times V doesn't turn up with Jx here.
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10-24-2017 , 12:14 PM
I call. He has Ax gutters as well as flush draws as well as some random spew with worse pockets.
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10-24-2017 , 02:47 PM
I'm calling. I don't think I 3-bet a potential fish here super wide and so I don't have A2s, and I don't think I have too many Jx's in my 3-betting range besides AJs.

KK must be fairly high in my range, then, and so I don't think we can only call our Jx's in this spot.
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10-24-2017 , 02:55 PM
It's close. If folding is a mistake it's only a very marginal one.


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Originally Posted by JamesBJames
KK must be fairly high in my range, then, and so I don't think we can only call our Jx's in this spot.
Population reads, yo. This thinking will only hold you back because it's an excuse to call a bunch when micro players are so tilted to the nuts you can fold the top of your range. Not saying specifically for this hand but in general.
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10-24-2017 , 04:43 PM
Against a guy playing with 75bb to start the hand I think we should be sizing up our flop bet. The SPR is about 3 on the flop, so I'm just looking to GII asap. If we make it 15 or 16bb on the flop, we probably still get the same calls from him and then we can just shove on the turn when we are still pretty far ahead of his range. Like that we don't have to worry about this tough river spot.
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10-24-2017 , 05:11 PM
i agree with simplelessons... i think i would bet larger on the flop, that miiiight avoid this awkward situation. on the river i think i would fold. i would be sad doing it, but i would fold :P
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10-24-2017 , 06:32 PM
Size up 3bet(he is a fish.. You can go as up as 15BB and it doesn't make any difference for him)
Size up flop significantly.. Even bet pot
River is a correct fold imo.
Top of our range is for not being exploited by someone. When we are playing against a braindead fish we are not worried about that!
Trust me if you think like that in micros, you'll never see above micros where this kind of thinking is going to be useful
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10-24-2017 , 07:22 PM
Looks ok to fold, in theory you probably should make a 0 EV call,but imo he is more likely to show up with too many value hands then to overbluff this spot so fold is reasonable.
Call is ok as well if you think more like bladesman
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