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11-15-2017 , 09:12 AM

Fosca999

stranger

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 14

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37871230

BTN: $24.90 (99.6 bb)
SB: $31.57 (126.3 bb)
Hero (BB): $25 (100 bb)
UTG: $48.48 (193.9 bb)
MP: $25 (100 bb)
CO: $25.67 (102.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K

UTG folds, MP calls $0.25, CO folds, BTN raises to $1.10, SB folds, Hero calls $0.85, MP calls $0.85

Flop: ($3.40) 5

(3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, BTN bets $3, Hero calls $3, MP folds

Turn: ($9.40) 5

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $9, Hero calls $9

River: ($27.40) 4

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $11.80 and is all-in, Hero calls $11.80

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I had no info on the isolator so far...

My thought process pre was: "What do I want to accomplish? I want to keep the fish in the pot, I don't mind being underrepped as it can be an advantage against the isolator cause in case I can easily call off 3 streets if needed"

post: "as I underrepped my range he can barelling off with strong Kx, one pair type hands and bluffs as well..."

Where did I go wrong? Is it just another std situation or did I put myself in a difficult situation with not 3beting the isolator? Is it that bad just to call here pre?

Thanks for your viewpoints, much appriciated!!

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11-15-2017 , 09:47 AM

IClickButtons

old hand

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,613

4 bet pre

"want to keep the fish in the pot, I don't mind being underrepped as it can be an advantage against the isolator cause in case I can easily call off 3 streets if needed" - you answered your question.

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11-15-2017 , 09:52 AM

StackedYouSon

adept

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 741

Board is so dry... I don't mind occassionally mixing in a flat with AK as we're usually crushing other players ranges. I think it's well played IMO. Although AK is usually an automatic squeeze here for me maybe I should start considering mixing in some flat calls.

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11-15-2017 , 04:48 PM

AltoZZ

adept

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 796

3bet pre ... u make the monies here since BTN ISO range is so wide..

AP calling all day, everyday...

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11-15-2017 , 05:05 PM

shynepo3

adept

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 838

The whole “keep fish in the pot” concept, does that apply to all hands you decide to play post, regardless of position and hand strength? Cause a hand like AKs, from the BB, against a button isolator I’d prefer to have it heads up. Is this wrong?

Some hands don’t u want heads up regardless?

OP besides not 4betting I play it the same. U got unlucky.

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11-15-2017 , 05:16 PM

simplelessons

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3,020

4bet pre.

I think I might be trying to get it in on the turn. BTN has potted it twice and only has a couple value combos that beat us. It's pretty gross if V checks back the river with KQ or KJ

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11-15-2017 , 07:02 PM

Bladesman87

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 14,543

Pre is close given it's an MP open imo.

Just stick it in on the turn.

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11-15-2017 , 09:16 PM

FreakDaddy

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Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 18,059

4-bet pre, CRAI on the turn. If he's betting that size, he's committing himself w/ most of his range. If he's bluffing, he's likely not going to bluff the river because he'd be giving you a hell of a price. Get the money now because there's no river card you're folding on.

As a side note at these stakes, when guys bet near pot on these dry boards, it's almost always w/ air or a hand that only has a few cards to improve it.

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11-15-2017 , 09:31 PM

.isolated

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 21,495

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Originally Posted by IClickButtons

4 bet pre

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Originally Posted by shynepo3

OP besides not 4betting I play it the same.

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Originally Posted by simplelessons

4bet pre.

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Originally Posted by Bladesman87

Pre is close given it's an MP open imo.

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Originally Posted by FreakDaddy

4-bet pre

Yeah, OP!!! Why didn't you 4-bet pre!?!?!?! I mean, besides there not being a 3-bet pre. WHY?!?!!?

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11-15-2017 , 10:23 PM

#10

Bladesman87

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Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 14,543

Lol.

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11-16-2017 , 06:23 AM

#11

tomj

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 4,543

Easy 4bet.

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11-16-2017 , 08:43 AM

#12

c_the_dog

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 122

Are we calling MP a fish as they limped no other stats? 3bet pre you get more value from the fish as a lot of fish will call the 3bet regardless and fold to a cbet.

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11-16-2017 , 08:48 AM

#13

pokerforumposter

adept

Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 856

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Originally Posted by FreakDaddy

Seems less likely in this particular spot on flop since it could be normal reg getting max value from fish with potsize bet

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11-16-2017 , 11:16 AM

#14

shynepo3

adept

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 838

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Originally Posted by .isolated

Yeah, OP!!! Why didn't you 4-bet pre!?!?!?! I mean, besides there not being a 3-bet pre. WHY?!?!!?

Oops...

But OP I meant to say I would prob play the same had I not 3bet. But I prefer 3 betting.

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11-16-2017 , 12:22 PM

#15

JamesBJames

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,791

I don't mind calling PF with a fish behind us but my default really is just to 5-bet PF.

As played I probably c/shove turn with weird SPR, but calling twice seems fine too.

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11-16-2017 , 07:06 PM

#16

BackdoorQuadsDraw

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 404

Is everyone misreading this hand? There was no 3 bet, OP flatted the open raise.

AP call river but it's trivial as you should just never be in this hand 3 way against ranges that wide

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11-16-2017 , 07:51 PM

#17

Bladesman87

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Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 14,543

I definitely misread it.

3-bet all day long.

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