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JJ utg vs BU 3b JJ utg vs BU 3b

10-08-2018 , 02:21 PM
Villain is tight 24/16 with 4%3b on BU.
Is this a fold pre? What to do on the flop and turn?


PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - €0.05/€0.10 - 5 players
Hand delivered by Pokeit

UTG (Hero): €10.99 (110 bb)
CO: €10.69 (107 bb)
BU: €12.45 (125 bb)
SB: €16.89 (169 bb)
BB: €19.82 (198 bb)

Pre-Flop: (€0.15) Hero is UTG with J J
Hero raises to €0.25, 1 fold, BTN 3-bets to €1, 2 players fold, Hero calls €0.75

Flop: (€2.15) T 4 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets €1.53, Hero calls €1.53

Turn: (€5.21) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets €4, UTG (Hero) ?
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10-08-2018 , 03:42 PM
Standard call pre, and call on flop. It's a bit dicey on the turn, but you shouldn't really be folding overpairs in 3-bet pots unless you're very sure villain has you crushed. You have TT/99 and a couple of NFDs in your range, but JJ and ATs would be the worst made hands that call twice. They are very close to breakeven, so I wouldn't say it's terrible to fold on the turn, but I would like to see the river, as villain can barrel with draws before giving up, and there's a (very) small chance you improve.
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10-08-2018 , 05:28 PM
It's a call (probably w/out reads) but it's a thin/breakeven spot for sure imo.
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10-08-2018 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
Standard call pre, and call on flop. It's a bit dicey on the turn, but you shouldn't really be folding overpairs in 3-bet pots unless you're very sure villain has you crushed. You have TT/99 and a couple of NFDs in your range, but JJ and ATs would be the worst made hands that call twice. They are very close to breakeven, so I wouldn't say it's terrible to fold on the turn, but I would like to see the river, as villain can barrel with draws before giving up, and there's a (very) small chance you improve.


When making this call with so little behind do we always call on brick river shoves?


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10-08-2018 , 07:50 PM
if you call turn always call river, even shoving is fine as you may get some wierd folds or him calling with draws (but unlikely vs this player)

As much as it may be nitty I would probably just fold this turn as I really can't imagine a guy like this barreling with worse.

I have called in this spot so many times just to see qq-aa
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10-09-2018 , 08:58 AM
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even shoving is fine as you may get some wierd folds or him calling with draws
You really play 100NL?

We're meant to call OP, but the reality of these games is that its going to be a significantly underbluffed turn which makes a fold not terrible whatsoever.
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10-09-2018 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ChipsNcrisps
You really play 100NL?

We're meant to call OP, but the reality of these games is that its going to be a significantly underbluffed turn which makes a fold not terrible whatsoever.
to be clear i think fold>shove>call because he calls with some hands we beat if we shove the turn which he will check back otr. He he is always shoving 9x anyway and we should always be calling if we call the turn
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