here is the hand. I think i should reraise the river because he bet 3 streets. if he had AK AQ AJ he bluff. Should i play it different?

fold pre

3bet or fold pre.

I don't mind the call if you're not likely to get squeezed and he really is a maniac, but I for sure would not be raising river unless he's a total maniac whale who I've seen making some of the worst calls ever. You just get called by flushes, straights and sets too often probably.

Knew the river was a flush, without the results. When the turn brings a flush draw, that hits on the river, all you can do is call.

"Maniac" flopped two overs, a gutterball, and a several back door draws. A C-bet by villain on this board is hardly maniacal, and the rest of the hand is standard.

Raise or fold pre, and the hand plays differently entirely.

As played, call river.

What's the thoughts behind this? For arguments sake let's say villain is a maniac - presumably we will have a flatting range, and will be three betting purely for value. Are you saying this is a comfortable value three bet?

And let's say we do three bet and triple barrel - is villain folding any street?

Raise pre to be in control in position and charge maniac extra to see a flop with the worst hand.

Pot sized bet, in position on the flop.

Assuming maniac, then vbet turn and call the checkraise from maniac.

Call river.

Surely you can see how this line is much better. Forget results, play the hand better.

Yeah, fair, thanks.

So you're telling that you would 3bet A8s vs utg and then pot size bet on the flop??? Not only are you getting no value from worse (Villain exact hand is maybe one of the only worse hands that would call flop, and you are flipping against it), but you might get better to fold (99-TT). Why would you play this hand as a bluff? Sure this play would have been the best play against villain exact hand, but it doesn't mean that it's right.

As played pre, once villain size up from 50% to 75% OTR, the only worse value hands that he can have are worse 2 pairs that contains an A (A6s, A3s, A2s) and strong asses that contain a club (AKxc, AQxc). And since you block an A, valain will have way more value hands that beat your hand than ones that don't.

The whole point is that UTG's a maniac and isn't having UTG ranges and maniacs don't typically have calling ranges as tight as 99/TT otf. He's probably calling some % of the time with QJo there as well. 3-betting pre is fine. I'd not bet pot otf, but I can at least see an argument for it.

Uh, no. Just no. Idk what else to say.

No what?