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Old 12-23-2013, 06:33 PM   #176
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Re: HEADS UP ZOOM

What does your redline look like out of curiosity?
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Old 12-23-2013, 07:06 PM   #177
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Old 12-23-2013, 07:33 PM   #178
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Cool, that's interesting. Well congrats again looks like you're for sure doing something more than just being on a heater over 50K
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Old 12-23-2013, 08:55 PM   #179
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he maybe is that donk-reg who never folds to 3bets and runs hotter than the sun kai-akkman or something like that
If your edge is that strong, calling up to 75% vs 3-3.5x 3 bets could easily be correct especially if you are opening a tighter <75% range.
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Old 12-23-2013, 08:58 PM   #180
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If your edge is that strong, calling up to 75% vs 3-3.5x 3 bets could easily be correct especially if you are opening a tighter <75% range.
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Old 12-23-2013, 08:59 PM   #181
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Back at ya. Wat?? This is a HUNL forum. Yeah, opening less than 75% of your hands is suboptimally tight. Vs a lot of villains it becomes a cavernous leak.
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Old 12-23-2013, 09:04 PM   #182
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Back at ya. Wat?? This is a HUNL forum. Yeah, opening less than 75% of your hands is suboptimally tight. Vs a lot of villains it becomes a cavernous leak.
i assumed uve played kai akkman and was refering to his opening range being <75, i doubt any 100zoom reg opens <75%
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Old 12-23-2013, 09:10 PM   #183
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i assumed uve played kai akkman and was refering to his opening range being <75, i doubt any 100zoom reg opens <75%
Oh sorry dude, no I'm trying to ward off a nasty downer at NL50 zoom, never played 100 in my life lol.
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Old 12-28-2013, 09:27 AM   #184
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any people know if HU cap zoom is beatable at low stakes with rake structure? had a little play earlier today and ws curious as to whether its beatable?
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Old 12-28-2013, 11:48 PM   #185
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Out of interest is anyone on here "Tarkalqsnk" who plays zoom 100 frequently?

Just wondering if your avatar is not you and you put it there to tilt people or you actually have it there cause you think you look like a boss in it?

First avatar ive ever blocked from tilt lol
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Old 12-30-2013, 12:52 PM   #186
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Oh yeah this guy is so awesome
Hope it's not him tbh
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Old 02-08-2014, 12:15 AM   #187
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Hu zoom has been amazing.

All you zoom players, you know who you are..

There is a funny thing in this forum where the most vocal are known but are not necessarily good. This forum is dead anyway..

no offence intended.
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Old 02-11-2014, 06:48 PM   #188
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any people know if HU cap zoom is beatable at low stakes with rake structure? had a little play earlier today and ws curious as to whether its beatable?
Kind of wondering myself. Looking at the NL50 Cap HU. Is the rake beatable there.
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Old 05-17-2014, 10:35 PM   #189
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Did the best poster in this forum (like someone else said) get banned - and is still banned.. (?)

Sometimes I actually get a bit uncomfortable when people post such useful information like he did - it feels they're doing other people's homework...

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Old 09-17-2017, 12:36 AM   #190
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Please excuse my ignorance.....It' Saturday night and on Stars there are 14 players IN TOTAL playing nl hu Zoom on Stars. One table ($0.25/0$0.50) has five players the other nine tables, only one. Is hu Zoom raked so hard it's totally unbeatable or what is the reason(s) for lack of traffic. Again please excuse my ignorance...if I knew...I wouldn't be asking. Not trolling.
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Old 09-18-2017, 11:45 PM   #191
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The zoom pools do have extremely high rake now. I estimated in the current rake structure at $.25/50 I would be paying 15bb/100 average in rake (I never actually played under current rake regime).

At those rake levels, table selection eclipses all other considerations. That said, when I was logging in from the USA and railing the action for a minute here and there last spring and early summer, there were still some very beatable pools, better even than the same time a year prior.

Stars has "professionalized" the management of online poker, exactly what many posters were saying would happen the second the Amaya deal happened back in 2014. The shift is closely analogous to what happened with live gambling in Vegas throughout the 90s and 2000s. There are still guys out there making good money from counting cards, but their skill levels and knowledge are staggering.

It's gotten to a similar point with online poker now. There are still profitable opportunities, but it's strictly a professional's game. The problem is, to paraphrase Doyle Brunson, if you have to ask for whom the game is profitable, it's not going to be profitable for you.

Also FWIW, Saturdays are typically and counterintuitively the lowest traffic day on Stars.
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Old 09-19-2017, 12:39 AM   #192
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Thank you for the reply Sir. Again with the ignorance..lowest traffic? Time difference?
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Old 09-22-2017, 03:32 AM   #193
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Def. beatable.

For what it's worth, I played you and think you don't beat this limit.
why are you posting that graph as if it means anything? He asked for statistically significant results.

This thread is so tilting, I havn't played hu in a while but no one has actually posted a graph in this thread showing what kind of winrate you can get at nl50.
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Old 09-29-2017, 04:41 AM   #194
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why are you posting that graph as if it means anything? He asked for statistically significant results.

This thread is so tilting, I havn't played hu in a while but no one has actually posted a graph in this thread showing what kind of winrate you can get at nl50.
After reading this, i played 10k hands and saw some bad regs playing. From what i saw, i'm 100% sure i can beat this 50nl zoom pool, even with the awful rake. Already paid $750 and received only stupid chests.
Graph incoming after 50k hands.
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