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Old 01-08-2011, 04:34 PM   #101
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I recently staked a husng reg (avg. bi $88 roi 5% over 4-5k game sample) for 20nl hu to try switching. He initially won 5 bi, but I watched a vid of his where he played pretty terribly and I predicted he would be having trouble soon. He constantly did moves without rhyme nor reason like c/c tp no draw on a monotone board and then donk the 4flush turn. He then went on a 15 bi downswing over 4k hands at 20nl, all vs. fish. I've had him doing EV calcs, analyzing hands, and watching vids as he seems like a smart guy (has experience in abstract mathematics, + was a winner at husng) and I'm hoping I can turn him into a winner. He is also willing to drop down to 10nl. Anyone have any suggestions? Do you think it's just a matter of time before someone with his background 'gets' it?
I was a winner at the 100s and 200s for HU sngs and a friend of mine wanted to do the same thing with me and get me playing HU cash. I started at nl 100. I am mainly bumhunting and am now playing up to nl600. I started breakeven over 26k hands. Just takes time
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Old 01-08-2011, 06:51 PM   #102
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Hey guys,

Quick question here. Yesterday i played that hand (like a donk) but can't figure out when i was supposed to fold.
Would you give up Turn or River ? The guy was pretty good for 2/4cents but i only played a few hands with him at that point.

$4.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BB: $5.22
Hero (BTN/SB): $3.73

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is BTN/SB with Q J
Hero raises to $0.12, BB calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.24) K Q K (2 players)
BB bets $0.18, Hero calls $0.18

Turn: ($0.60) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

River: ($1.40) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80

Final Pot: $3.00
BB shows K 8
BB wins $2.85
(Rake: $0.15)
Preflop: ok
Flop: float ok: because he's not agressor and donkbets i give gim credit for a Q or a K
Turn: might be ok, depends on his image. He might shoot 2nd barrel bc you just called him and might be drawing, but ppl don't second barrel a lot in micro's. If he has a weak queen he'd prolly check it but a call is not a big mistake though.
River: fold, clear valuebet
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Old 01-09-2011, 11:29 PM   #103
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How do you guys cope emotionally with bad days in the HU world? I'm pretty new to HU and after a decent couple weeks I kept getting coolered over and over again today and it was pretty deflating. Thanks.
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Old 01-10-2011, 12:25 AM   #104
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How do you guys cope emotionally with bad days in the HU world? I'm pretty new to HU and after a decent couple weeks I kept getting coolered over and over again today and it was pretty deflating. Thanks.
practice. Just got to be level headed and know when to walk away and when its not your day. I use to punch walls and throw laptops but over time I learned that it was stupid and -EV
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Old 01-10-2011, 03:32 AM   #105
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just play more and have a healthy bankroll, when u're sure u always make money off HU, u gonna feel better.
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Old 01-10-2011, 06:01 AM   #106
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I recently staked a husng reg (avg. bi $88 roi 5% over 4-5k game sample) for 20nl hu to try switching. He initially won 5 bi, but I watched a vid of his where he played pretty terribly and I predicted he would be having trouble soon. He constantly did moves without rhyme nor reason like c/c tp no draw on a monotone board and then donk the 4flush turn. He then went on a 15 bi downswing over 4k hands at 20nl, all vs. fish. I've had him doing EV calcs, analyzing hands, and watching vids as he seems like a smart guy (has experience in abstract mathematics, + was a winner at husng) and I'm hoping I can turn him into a winner. He is also willing to drop down to 10nl. Anyone have any suggestions? Do you think it's just a matter of time before someone with his background 'gets' it?
I played a guy at NL50 that had made over 20k profit from HUSNG and he was terrible limping alot with hands like queen 10 suited and with alot of good hands i even at one point tried too tell him that limping in is really bad and he said how much money have you made from poker,

and told me that he made alot more than me from husng and he doesnt need my advice and too look him up on sharkscope i did and he had great stats might of been 20k or more profit i cant rememeber..

Not bragging but i took him for about $300 the first time he quit and came back later that day and i took another $250 or so off him he was really bad just proves that HUSNG And HUCASH are completly different game...
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Old 01-10-2011, 07:43 PM   #107
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A few noob questions for the NL100+ players:

1) Do you make a living playing solely HU? For 6-max players getting action is easy: you just sit down at a table. But even at NL25 and 50 I'm finding it hard to get much action (Cereus network--I'm an unfortunate WA player)--the majority of players who sit down are shortstacking fish. I'm wondering if it's this bad at the micros, how can people make a living playing NL100+?

2) Related to the last question, how many HU hands a month do you play? Wondering how much volume it is possible to get in with all the bumhunting going on these days...

3) Do you think a HU pro needs to play on FTP or PS in order to get in enough volume to make a living? Another recent thread in this forum made it sound like action is pretty dead at the NL200-600 stakes.
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Old 01-10-2011, 09:22 PM   #108
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Thanks again for the feedback friends. Still find myself focused on my win loss total a bit too much more than necessary. I play a mix of 100NL/200NL with 90/45 BIs which I suppose is decently healthy yet I still think of daily money totals. As an aside I am considering practicing meditation at home, which is something I think could help a lot of people out in poker (and everything else). Knowing when to walk away and having confidence that I can always be successful are great traits to have BYN and Lovefish. I also think I was in reality just a bit too tired to play optimally even though I felt like grinding and should have taken that into consideration. Good stuff.
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Old 01-10-2011, 11:31 PM   #109
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Thanks again for the feedback friends. Still find myself focused on my win loss total a bit too much more than necessary. I play a mix of 100NL/200NL with 90/45 BIs which I suppose is decently healthy yet I still think of daily money totals. As an aside I am considering practicing meditation at home, which is something I think could help a lot of people out in poker (and everything else). Knowing when to walk away and having confidence that I can always be successful are great traits to have BYN and Lovefish. I also think I was in reality just a bit too tired to play optimally even though I felt like grinding and should have taken that into consideration. Good stuff.
You use really good bankroll management thats for sure. Cant really look at how much you are winning/losing though as long as you are playing well. Just keeping making +EV decisions and in the long run things will even out and go your way. I use to be the same way like continuing to refresh cashier and now I never look. Just have to get use to getting owned every once in a while :P. It happens to everyone
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Old 01-11-2011, 05:26 AM   #110
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You use really good bankroll management thats for sure. Cant really look at how much you are winning/losing though as long as you are playing well. Just keeping making +EV decisions and in the long run things will even out and go your way. I use to be the same way like continuing to refresh cashier and now I never look. Just have to get use to getting owned every once in a while :P. It happens to everyone
**** i do this all the time i check the cashier when im playing too see how much im up or down!!
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Old 01-11-2011, 05:43 PM   #111
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**** i do this all the time i check the cashier when im playing too see how much im up or down!!
lol yeah dont do that
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Old 01-11-2011, 07:26 PM   #112
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You use really good bankroll management thats for sure. Cant really look at how much you are winning/losing though as long as you are playing well. Just keeping making +EV decisions and in the long run things will even out and go your way. I use to be the same way like continuing to refresh cashier and now I never look. Just have to get use to getting owned every once in a while :P. It happens to everyone
Yeah you are right, thanks man I'm going to not look at the cashier.....I experimented with this a while back and I think I was making better decisions, not sure why I stopped :S And yes I admit it, I got pwned, yippee
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Old 01-13-2011, 12:12 PM   #113
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What should be on my hud if i am playing HU?
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What should be on my hud if i am playing HU?
Whatever you want. Most people customize their HUDs to include specific things they look for while playing
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Whatever you want. Most people customize their HUDs to include specific things they look for while playing
What are the most important things to look for HU?
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What are the most important things to look for HU?
sb vpip
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4b%
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Cbet%
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These are common and popular ones to construct a HUD. Also would include flop aggression, turn aggression, and river aggression
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Old 01-14-2011, 01:58 AM   #117
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c/r and fold to c/r on flop.
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:59 AM   #118
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Played 300000 Hands 6max 2010, getting into HU 2011 and want to shift more and more to HU over the year.

Have two Questions that came up in my first HU Sessions regarding one Player Type.


1. Villain limp/calls 99% of his Range on the BU. Minraises every 20 Hands.
How does this affect my BB Raising Range and my Cbet range? when hes loose Postflop but also raises my cbets light for Value (TPweakKicker Type). With what range should i checkraise ?

2. How to adjust against Villains who call 100% OOP preflop (never 3bet) are loose postflop and mindonk always into me. How does this affect my Button raising range ?

These player types give me trouble, i have a hard time get paid off with good made hands and probably are too loose against them pre.
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:09 AM   #119
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1. cbet and c/r range depends on how villain reacts to them.
2. open to 4BB and 5BB with top of your range, it also depends on how he reacts and his post flop play. Take mindonk as a check (well I fold to them sometimes if my hand is a completely trash and don't wanna cbet). If he's donking a lot and u feel lost and losing a lot by folding to them, tighten up your range pre, cbet bigger (in this case raise bigger).
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Old 01-15-2011, 07:30 PM   #120
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Decided after long while try headsup cash game. As I'm pretty new I have very little idea of reqular lines/stats/etc. So to help categorising villains how to identify fish/decent player(at my stakes I don't expect to face stellar players though then again I'm not good HU player either so no reason to get cocky quickly? What should I be looking forward?

ATM I'm looking simply huge vpip/pfr gap, high call open from BB, high limp from SB and then either high pfr from BTN and high fold to 3bet or high pfr from BTN and very low fold to 3bet. Also ridiculously high pfr/aggressions are key though those aren't neccessarily ideal opponents I would like to play yet.

Any other tips for categorising players? I'm big fan of table selection and while challenging yourself is important I rather do basic training in HU vs the bad players than try up against best players of my(albeit small) stakes rightaway

Also if there's good basic primer for HU play wouldn't mind if somebody links to it.

Thanks.
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Old 01-19-2011, 01:23 PM   #121
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probably already here somewhere but can someone provide a link to information on moving from FR to HU.
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Old 01-23-2011, 02:31 AM   #122
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hi i search a french hu coach ?
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Old 01-23-2011, 10:25 AM   #123
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https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/10...thread-511247/

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Old 01-23-2011, 04:08 PM   #124
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Advice on dealing with a specific player type I've been having trouble with:

Villain opens 100% otb, and 3bets ~40% from BB. Very high c-bet in 3bet pots, very aggressive post flop.

I've tried tightening up my opening range drastically (going from 90% to 50%) but even then, I still whiff most flops and can't handle the barrels.

Should I start 4-betting lighter? Should my 4bets be polarized (AQ+, TT+ and air?)

I used to think I should just call with strong hands like KQ and AJ to keep his range wide and get lots of value when I pair, but I find I lose to much money on flops I miss.

Should I be opening for 2 BB? in addition to / instead of tightening up?

New to HU, appreciate thoughts.
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Old 01-23-2011, 06:36 PM   #125
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