Seriously struggle with this.

Each win I've booked has either been due to them quitting or my gf literally pulling me away from the laptop to go and do Something!

Do people have a winning stop gap? like 3 buy ins and then leave?

I was up 4 buy in's after winning a flip AK>QQ and having QQ on a 97310 board and getting it in against a 9 and a flush draw and holding then ground out another 2 buyins.

ended up 2 buy ins down by the time I quit

this should really go in the beginners thread. keep playing when your winning because you are playing well. you should look at a cognitive bias called loss aversion because it looks like it is affecting how you are play

Apologies, could a mod please move if appropriate.

Loss Aversion, would this not mean that you play tighter when ahead? which is actually the opposite to my problem as once I'm up I loosen up and try and run over people.

If that's the case you definitely don't have the problem he's talking about.

What you decide to do should ideally be completely opponent dependent.

Trying to run over someone whose reaction to being stuck is to turn into a complete station obviously isn't a very good idea.

When you're up a significant amount, momentum and psychological edge are on your side and you should use that to your advantage, but how you do that is going to differ from opponent to opponent and if you spend a little time thinking about it you should figure out how to adapt to specific opponents easily.

When you're stuck yourself, personally I stop playing regs at that point because I know that the psychological edge is too much to overcome at close to equivalent skill level and that they're going to quit me when I start coming back anyway.

Against fish, I'll keep playing until they quit me unless I'm losing to the point where my tilt really affects the way I play negatively because I know that they don't have the skills, experience or maybe simply mental faculties to take full advantage of the edge they could have from being up on me.

(looking forward to Raptor's answers to your questions)

Cheers for the reply NL,

He wasn't a complete station and once I got up 3 buy ins I did try NIT up for 20 - 30 hands to see if I could tilt in him to spazzing out thinking he had to create action to get his money back but he was solid enough to keep going and plugging away.

Yes I'm looking forward to his reply as well as I'm not looking for someone to tell me everything is going to work out great, just want to set myself goals that are challenging but achievable rather than living in a dream world!!!

Slightly off topic but I'm going to start using a HUD tonight, do you use one and if so could you give me some beginner's figures please mate?

Hi guys,
Do any of you know where i can watch some of the isildur1 matches against durrr or ivey or PA?
I would really enjoy to see the matches as they were played, not only the biggest pots.

I have a problem. Many times, when I win a buy-in or two, other guy starts to be too aggressive and 3-bets too much.
I'm not comfortable with variance, so many times I say, I'm going in 5 minutes...
Am I a hnr? I just want to play normal, not flip.
I play 50NL short stack tables.

EDIT: I mean 3-bet almost every hand, I gotta be calling and 4-betting a lot and that is bad for variance.

i mean quit if u dont feel comfortable playing under certain circumstances but a lot of those spots are going to be very profitable. yeah the variance might go up but youre going to book some nice wins a lot of the time when they start 3betting every hand--thats a big leak right???

Thanks for replying. Yea, it's a big leak, gotta improve my flipping game. I'll invest into a training site soon.

Please let me know which training site will improve the flipping game as I could do with making my 50:50's more 70:30's lol

To all:

I'm trying to work out my 3bet calling ranges and have been playing around with pokerstove etc.... and if we're giving the Vill a 25 - 28% 3bet range then hands like 89s are not profitable to call correct as we're 34% but on a standard 3x open 10x 3 bet we're calling 7bb's to win 13 so it's 54%?

First time I'm really devling into the math side of things so would like a quick check or correction?

Also 89s will be the top of our folding range so should we be 4bet bluffing these as well?

What sort of standard range are we calling 3bets with a 90% open and a Vill 3betting 25%?

Nah, this is completely wrong. Firstly we're calling to win 7bb to win 20bb, so we need 35%.

Secondly we shouldn't compare this figure, 35% with the raw equity of our hand vs his top 25%. His 3bet range will be polarized and NOT just the top 25% of hands. Also we are in position with 90bb still behind, so there's lots of poker to play in the hand and we can't just assume the our chance of winning the hand is 35% with 78s vs top 25% because realistically we should win the hand much more often that that, are of course there are implied odds to consider.

89s is not top of folding range. It is too nice and playable, too much equity and implied odds vs a polarized 3bet range to 4bet it. Think about 4betting hands with blockers that aren't good enough to call. A3o, A2o, K6o, etc

A2s+ A8o+ K7s+ K9o+ Q8s+ Q9o+ J8s+ J9o+ T9o 98o 87o 45s-9Ts (incl suited 1 gappers) 22+

take away 4bet range

Ah good times!!! glad my first foray into crunching the figures was a flat out failure haha.

Ah that all makes it a lot clearer in my mind and I think I've been too tight calling the 3bets in position.

Thanks for the input on this and my other posts Khal

No worries, gl

khai is obv right in a vacuum, but i think your tighter appraoch to calling 3bets is fine, given that you seem to be a beginner and have little experience playing in 3bet pots or postflop in general (no offense). what i mean is, why don't you open up your calling range a little bit (i.e. start calling hands like 89s, fold A8o e.g. / call more "playable" hands) and start getting into some postflop spots, get better at it, and at some point you'll be able to defend wide enough/optimally.

1/2 right we are calling 7bb to win 13bb so we are getting 13-7 or 35% pot odds. If we where calling 7bb to win 20bb we would be getting 20-7 and need 26% pot odds. You cant include money we have to call in your pot odds because it belongs to you if you dont call.

Sigh, yes I know, I just thought it was an easier way of putting it so we can do the fraction 7/20.

What are the lowest HU stakes on bovada? Is the action there good and worth giving up hand histories for?

+ Are flush draws supposed to come in 33% of the time after the flop? Cuz after a sample of about 3k hands (HU), I think I hit em 5% of the time...can I call that a downswong?

Flush draw should come in about 36% of the time after flop. Number of outs x 4 is a pretty solid estimation when trying to work out equity of a hand with outs. 9 outs x 4 = 36%

This is the first piece of poker material i ever owned. Homemade equity chart ftw.

I know this question has been asked many times over but i'm really interested in the amount of buy ins most most HUNL regulars stick to while going up stakes.

Haven't played poker for 5 to 6 months due to busting my online roll in a single night well two night to be correct.

I was a regular PLO HU player for about 1 year consistently moving up limits pretty easy, got to 5-10 until one night i just could not stop tilting and for some reason didn't sleep 40+ hours knowing i was going to bust if i keep playing but still kept playing until i busted, playing 25-50 50-100, like a id!ot.

So i know 1 year is not long enough to suggest if i was i winning player or not although i think i was but most think that also i know.

For PLO i used a 100 buy in rule but always knew 150 to 200 buyins would have been a better option, i thought i start with NL with such a small roll since less swings compared to PLO and build up and later think about PLO when i have at least 100 buy ins or more for minimum 200 or 400 PLO.

For some reason i just struggle to play PLO small stakes compared to playing HUNL small stakes.

Btw i only play HU with both NL or PLO

So my question is with my 5k Bankroll what limits would most regulars recommend?

I quit my job as i know (think) i can make more playing poker.

Live at home and not asked to pay any bills, so i hardly need any money besides going out which i left 4k in the bank so i don't need to be withdrawing for a while. So basically i don't want to withdraw from my poker winning instead will have it spread out over more sites.



Thanks in advance.

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You got 25 bi for 200nl which is enough to handle swing if u actually can beat that level. Let's hope so considering you're doing it for a living. Start at 200nl and less and if u get under 20 bi $4k for 200nl move down to 100 and 50 until you have 25 bi $5k for 200nl again and move up. When you get to $10k open up 400nl tables, move down of below 20bi $8k and repeat...you should be fine. You could consider moving up levels on the short tables quicker than the 100bb ones if you play both but the swings are arguably larger so same rule can't really apply. Something like that

NL5k is the obvious choice. Or maybe shortstacking higher

Or post there.

So...if my flush draws don't come in approx 36% of the time I guess I can call that variance right? lol

Btw, what's the max amount of tables you guys can do vs unknowns?

Hey !

I would like to know on which poker rooms it is possible to play CG HU lower than NL50 (5,10,20,25) ?
Winamax.fr offers that kind of tables but the rake in France is so important, it's quite unplayable !

Thank you !
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