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Old 11-02-2010, 01:45 AM   #26
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Whats the point of this thread if nobody is answering ****ing questions??
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Old 11-02-2010, 01:48 AM   #27
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4get last post....

point still stands tho (ie; fucck y'all)
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Old 11-02-2010, 03:32 PM   #28
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Im very new, so im gonna ask something very noobish.
Im playing micro stackes (0.01/0.02) to get started.
Im sitting with 100BB. Is that good? And with how many BBs won should i sit out?
(considering a situation where oppo will have the same BB amount as mine at game start)
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Old 11-03-2010, 02:38 AM   #29
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3 questions

1. bankroll management for hu cash?
2. how much hands of 50nl hu to get supernova?
3. how do you identify regs from fish?
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Old 11-03-2010, 04:21 PM   #30
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What's a good rate for a 50nl coach? (In terms of the student cost)

Is it worth it? Has anyone been a break even or losing person and became a winning hu player after coaching who wants to share their experiences?

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Old 11-04-2010, 01:54 AM   #31
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Im very new, so im gonna ask something very noobish.
Im playing micro stackes (0.01/0.02) to get started.
Im sitting with 100BB. Is that good? And with how many BBs won should i sit out?
(considering a situation where oppo will have the same BB amount as mine at game start)
Yes, you should always buyin full (100 bb). When you should sit out is entirely up to you. If you are playing well and/or playing a bad player then you should keep playing until he loses all his money or quits you. If you aren't playing well or feel like someone has an edge on you then think about stopping. Only you can know this really.
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Old 11-04-2010, 02:02 AM   #32
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3 questions

1. bankroll management for hu cash?
2. how much hands of 50nl hu to get supernova?
3. how do you identify regs from fish?


1. The basic strategy as I understand it is a ratio of buyins where you move up or move down. I have used 20/17 for a while and that has worked for me. So when I have 20 buyins for the next level I move up. If I drop below 17 buyins for that level I move down until I have 20 buyins again. You can change it to whatever you want. 25/18, 35/25, whatever.

2. About a billion.....I actually don't really know, a freekin lot I imagine.

3. Well, when you play on a site and you are looking at the tables and there is the same person playing every single day that person is likely a reg. If it is someone you have never seen before they might be a fish. Once you play on a site for a while you'll notice who is always there and who is new. Not all regs are good though and obv. not all new people are fish.
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Old 11-04-2010, 10:16 AM   #33
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I was wondering what hands you call 3bets with vs unknowns early in matchs and why?

Also Do you flat your big pairs sometimes? or just always 4b them? (micro stakes)

Also I am int he process in watching pr1nndading (or something like that lol) pr1nndading s2, dog is heads up and real life ms hu grinder, what videos you think I should look after those?

thanks a lot
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Old 11-04-2010, 10:20 AM   #34
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1. The basic strategy as I understand it is a ratio of buyins where you move up or move down. I have used 20/17 for a while and that has worked for me. So when I have 20 buyins for the next level I move up. If I drop below 17 buyins for that level I move down until I have 20 buyins again. You can change it to whatever you want. 25/18, 35/25, whatever.
That seems like a very agressive BR management, but I helps yopu to move up fast I think.

Q: When you move up you go after fish only?

Also do you have any parameters with your skill to move up? i.e. play any reg at your current level or whatever
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:32 PM   #35
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That seems like a very agressive BR management, but I helps yopu to move up fast I think.

Q: When you move up you go after fish only?

Also do you have any parameters with your skill to move up? i.e. play any reg at your current level or whatever
it is pretty aggressive and if you choose this one you have to be willing to move back down when you need to. I made it up to 50nl for about a week and then had to drop back to 20nl and now I am back to 10nl. So yes you have to be strict and willing to follow this. It does amke it pretty hard to go busto though.

I definitely table select. There are people I wont play. I have started trying to play more just so I can improve but if I am getting beat too badly I will quit that person. I only use the 20/17 rule of whether to move up or down.
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Old 11-04-2010, 09:10 PM   #36
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^^ welll thats all i have, 21 buy ins... 50nl hu cash looks soft with plenty of fish why i wanted to play it.. stars dont have 20nl cash ... only the sng's if thats what you are referring to
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Old 11-04-2010, 09:46 PM   #37
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Hi i am one of the new one , could someone please tell me about the shove/call hands, that have ev+ in preflop all in, or preflop call of someones all in. Thanks
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Old 11-09-2010, 12:13 AM   #38
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What HUD stats in HEM are people using?
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Old 11-09-2010, 10:28 PM   #39
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What HUD stats in HEM are people using?
common ones i heard:

checkraise: duh fun fact, if the villain checkraises it does not count as the 3bet! checkraise is a stat all on its own

flop c-bet and how often he folds to flop c-bet (villain is fighting back with air/draws/overs?)

turn and river too! if villain is capable of reloading the gun for the 4th and 5th streets

don't use VPIP/PFR but the position stats of SB VPIP/BB VPIP, since there's only two positions in HU, better to get two different numbers rather than a combined total.

3/4 bets/ folds to 3/4 bets

There was a special stat i forgot what it was called but it showed when villain does a DELAYED Cbet on the turn instead on the flop. You guys can look for that one.

Anyways I'm sure i'm missing some stuff but this stuff doesn't matter to me, I play on cake network so hudless and note taking FTW~!

just for the record i quote from nikachu " Seeing a hand go to showdown beats any stat any day"
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Old 11-10-2010, 12:20 AM   #40
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Are there any good places (as in not a crappy site like UB) to play HUNL at lower than NL50?
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Old 11-10-2010, 12:50 AM   #41
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Nl20 can be found at cake
I like doyles for the rakeback + bonus but for every 80 cents they take 4 cents in rake
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Old 11-10-2010, 03:32 AM   #42
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Merge network has NL25 afaik & 35% rakeback.
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Old 11-10-2010, 07:18 PM   #43
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im interested in knowing, with what kind of frequencies people generally find themselves flatting a button open when they are in the blind.

i know, in general, in ring games, especially in lower stakes, usually it's 3-bet or fold from the blinds, flatting perhaps only to set mine, or because many people called, and you are getting a great price to see the flop, with a hand that doesn't have too much reverse implied odds.

but in HU cash, how often do you flat your opponets BT open?

i'm assuming it would be based on villains tendencies, but what's a general range, or even just a spot, that you would flat their open rather then 3-bet or fold from OOP.

obviously if they are opening the BT very wide, you can't just fold fold fold, against these opponets do you 3-bet mostly or flat call a fair amount as well?

i suppose post flop tendencies would be a big factor, if they will play their air passively on the flop, and fold it when you bet, then i suppose you would want to 3-bet them with a high frequency pre.


any other thoughts/input on this?
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Old 11-10-2010, 08:03 PM   #44
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Is it considered rude to leave a table immediately after winning a huge hand given you've been there for a while up until then?
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Old 11-10-2010, 11:33 PM   #45
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Is it considered rude to leave a table immediately after winning a huge hand given you've been there for a while up until then?

people will have different views on this. some say there's no such thing as HnR- ppl can leave whenever they want. others will say its an "unwritten rule" to not HnR.

personally i try to not leave w/o a warning a little ahead of time ("im done in like 10mins" or something like that) because i haate it when someone quits me w/ no warning so i try not to do it to others

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Old 11-22-2010, 04:24 PM   #46
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What's a good rate for a 50nl coach? (In terms of the student cost)

Is it worth it? Has anyone been a break even or losing person and became a winning hu player after coaching who wants to share their experiences?

Thanks
I'd say around $50/hr is pretty cheap, if you can get lower than thats even better.

I was a breakeven player at 50nl, slightly losing before I got coaching and then became a winning HU player after a few sessions with a CR pro last year. Definitely worth it imo. I play 100nl-400nl now. And 6max 200nl is pretty "soft" to me now. Not going to lie though, it's taken a lot of work in between my first coachign session and now, and it definitely doesn't come easy. but coaching will set you in the right direction
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Old 11-27-2010, 12:45 AM   #47
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Hi, I'm a newbie here and I want to verify a rumor that spread among my friends...
"The 2p2 hu forum is very dangerous for a noob", because many players post here trying to outplay the mind of the reader so they don't post what they actual think
Is that true?
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Old 11-30-2010, 12:59 AM   #48
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Hi, I'm a newbie here and I want to verify a rumor that spread among my friends...
"The 2p2 hu forum is very dangerous for a noob", because many players post here trying to outplay the mind of the reader so they don't post what they actual think
Is that true?
lol no. once you get to know who certain posters are you will see there are a ton of very good posts. there are some bad ones too but you just have to learn how is competent and who is a retard
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Old 11-30-2010, 02:13 PM   #49
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Just trying NL50 on full tilt last night and I am the fish so I thought ppl would want to play me but everyone kept getting up 10 bucks and quitting me...anyway I got a good 500 hand session going against villain. This hand was at the end of the session and I had noticed that he was calling my 3-bets OTB with hands like A3, A7o. So I decided to 3-bet lighter (don't know if this is correct). He also had decided to recently float flops in 3-bet pots but normally would shut down to a second barrel.

Hero in BB ($75):dealt J9
Villain SB/BTN (Covers me)

Villain raises to 1.5, Hero raises to 5, Villain calls 3.5

Flop: A49

Hero bets 7.5 (been the standard c-bet in 3-bet pots), Villain calls 7.5

Turn: 8 Pot(25)

Hero?
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Old 11-30-2010, 04:09 PM   #50
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Just trying NL50 on full tilt last night and I am the fish so I thought ppl would want to play me but everyone kept getting up 10 bucks and quitting me...anyway I got a good 500 hand session going against villain. This hand was at the end of the session and I had noticed that he was calling my 3-bets OTB with hands like A3, A7o. So I decided to 3-bet lighter (don't know if this is correct). He also had decided to recently float flops in 3-bet pots but normally would shut down to a second barrel.

Hero in BB ($75):dealt J9
Villain SB/BTN (Covers me)

Villain raises to 1.5, Hero raises to 5, Villain calls 3.5

Flop: A49

Hero bets 7.5 (been the standard c-bet in 3-bet pots), Villain calls 7.5

Turn: 8 Pot(25)

Hero?
Seems like an easy bet of about 18
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