3bet more

hypothetically if you were playing a player with 70% open that doesn't fold to 3-bets what would be your 3b range?

I am curious because I am only playing 25nl and I can go 40 hands without making a single 3bet, then as soon as I do I get called so I'm not sure what a good 3bet range is vs. fish

I have been 3b like 13%

Vs 70% open and 100% 3bet defense should probably be 3betting top 20% or something I'd guess, maybe more. 13% sounds a little tight especially vs these types of players.

It's the only complaint I have about HU is that after 3betting we are out of position with initiative... a very akward spot for inexperienced players like me.

heh

I should be widening my ranges though I guess, thanks so much for the input on my game.

Pretty new to heads up and wondering how to adjust to villian

villian is defending 60% pf and not folding anything post flop no matter what pretty much he is super bad c-calling bottom pr and such for 3 streets. I adjusted by opening way tighter than normal went from 95% to like a gross feeling70% and the match really started to turn around my way playing a stronger range pre and i checked back alot of flops or 3 barreled my value hands/bluffs instead of just betting once or twice. He played very straightforward post. c-calling weakish hands 100% of the time and c/r strong hands-some draws.

would it ever be good to start limping buttons vrs him??
opening like 4 or 5 x pre??

any feedback on how to adjust would be helpful

also Too Curious said to use the search feature not sure if im doing it right all kinds of unrelated threads came up when i search for my keywords-adjusting to player- can someone help to use the search function better thanks

yeah raising less often but for 4x or 5x is a good strategy. you can kind of tailor your raise size to how good your hand is.

this might help http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...07&page=0&vc=1

you can also search individual threads, such as this one.

Hi guys,

I recently made the transition from husng to hu cash and started to play on a network where the majory of the players that sits me are fishes that only buy in for 20-40bb, never re-buy and usually hit and run. Seems like either,
- i bust the fish quickly but only win ~30bb,
- takes me a while to bust the fish and i ended up breaking even or losing due to the high rake at euro sites,
- the fish doubles up and insta leaves or,
- the fish goes on a heater, doubles up a couple of times and insta leaves.

Agaisnt this guys i'm obvious never quitting and always with auto-rebuy on, so feels like i'm risking infinite $ only to win 20-40bb.
So, is it really worth to play agaisnt this guys knowing that im risk so much to win so few?
Should i stop give them action unless they buy in full (or close to it)?


Thanks in advance.

i almost always play them for 20-40bb but i play stakes where the rake is less significant. i think u can make an arguement for quitting them unless they have some glaring leaks that will be easy to exploit. but i mean if its not going well for you then maybe make a new cutoff at say 40bb+ or so.

At 50 don't bother sitting someone for less than 20 dollars. You can easily get enough action for this stack size + you shouldn't even play that many tables anyway. You're also probably losing to the rake. And you're also not going to learn that much playing super shallow... and your goal should be learning, right?

At 100 I think sitting someone for 30 dollars is fine to size them up. If they aren't completely terrible after 10-20 hands, though, you should probably quit and ask them to buy in 40+ in chat.

Anything lower than 50 and you should basically wait for a 50bb stack or better - you really should be able to get enough action for that...

Hi guys,when do you double barreling ? I usually make second barrel when on turn comes scare card,card which help for my draw.
And you ? And what is your sizing ? i usually bet 1/2 of pot or 2/3
Thanks for answer guys

2/3 pot is a decent starting point. this is a very general questions but heres some ideas...barrell when you have a hand that is good and your opponent can call with worse. barrell when you pick up equity. barrell when cards that are bad for their range and good for yours fall.

say you have QJ on a 24K T board. Id be barrelling that a ton because it makes them fold a lot of their A3/A5 hands and small pairs etc, and you picked up equity.

remember, a range calls and a range folds. how much of their range calls? how much folds? think about it. ask yourself all the hands he calls the flop with, and then look at the turn and then ask yourself which of those hands fold or call again.

thanks for answer and i have last question


i have one question about coldcalling and calling 3bets.How are you thinking when your opponent raise you ?Is it same like FR or 6max,i know 22-66 i can call for setmining but in HU is it same ? Can i call for setminig ?Or for example KJ how do you think ?And how do you reaction for 3bets ?I know all things are by opponents but is it some rules for calling ???Thanks for tips guys and GL at the tables

hmmm. thats a lot of questions! ill answer one and leave the rest for some1 else or perhaps you can find some stuff in here. yes u can call 22-66 out of the big blind no problem to set mine. i would aim for playing around 35-45% of hands from out of position (in the big blind). try downloading pokerstove (its free) and playing with it and entering in say top 40% of hands or something. that might give you a little bit of help.

i would read through this thread though i bet u can find a ton of useful info in here thats relevant for where u are in HU.

gl,

TC

Line check

Villain seemed somewhat tag. Is this good/bad? I felt like he would go for two streets with QX or a medium pair.

I felt like river defined his range as an AX or better.

thats usually my default until i figure some things out

I think a leak of mine is cbetting and giving up too high a % on paired/dry boards. Against a relative unknown at 100bbs how are you deciding when to re-bluff/flat or just check back very dry flops. Example below,

BB: 96.88 BB
Hero (BTN): 290.20 BB

Pre-Flop: 9 7 dealt to Hero (BTN)
Hero raises to 3BB, BB calls 2BB

Flop: (6BB) T 5 5 (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets 4BB, BB raises to 13.32BB, Hero folds

Results: 14BB Pot
BB showed and WON 22.64BB (+16.64BB NET)

^I'm not the best HUNL player however when someone is constantly pounding my c bets on paired boards, I will inevitably 3bet bluff and I think it is very profitable when conservatively applied.

However if they are unknown I am going to bet/fold in that spot every single time.

If you think they are playing back at you too frequently, bluff the paired board less to avoid the dynamic.

3BETTING LIGHT

Hi guys.I have one question / problem about 3 betting LIGHT in HU .
I usually 3 betting light something like A2-A4,K2-K4,Q2-Q4 and 22-44.
? I dont know if i dont waste of value for 3 betting A2-A4,because its basically bluff. i think its a mistake FOLD these cards but,can i call or raise light ? Is it a LIGHT 3bet with A2-A4?
Yeah,the most important thing if i can profitable 3 betting light is % fold to 3bet by opponents,but i have problem with A2-A4 thanks for answers guys.
And last question : When opponents %fold to 3bet is say....85% (i meet this quys) i usually dont 3bet for value ( 99-AA,AT+,KJ+) but i really,really 3bet light very wide range.I think,its good and you ?And obvious i sometimes 3bet for value for balanced my range.....Thanks for tips guys

As soon as villain gets that the majority of your 3bet range is that weak, you're too exploitable. Prolly better to have something like half your range for value and the other half for semi-bluff. Or 60%-40%, whatever suits you.

Generally good to remove premiums from your 3bet range when opponent is folding 85%+ to 3bets, but you should make sure your sample is ample before making that adjustment.

[NL50] HU
Villan is 3bet me around 40-45% in sample of 100 hands,

before I 4b shove 99 and he had KK is this good play aginst this agro player?

and once he 3b AKo and on flp AQ7r he cbet 75% pot.


What is the best play on flop?

4bet small to about $12 with the 99.

Here with the 78s raising small can def be good vs this maniac, but don't just shove. Calling is perfectly fine too.

Post here http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/58...thread-941573/ for a quick check-up on any hand histories in the future.

What would you consider to be a decent sample for HU 3b stats?

Just off the top of my head, and this isn't exact science anyway, I would consider just flatting QQ-99, AQ, AJ, KQ and sometimes AA/KK type hands if he had folded to 85% of 20 or 25 3bets. You just have to make sure to take note of stats changing and readjust.