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Originally Posted by wiltronic
-Learn to differentiate between hands that can go for 1, 2 or 3 streets of value.
-Learn to recognize good 2nd and 3rd barreling opportunities.
Can someone give some basic examples of this? I definitely don't know either of these things. Thanks-
Maybe something like you open Q9o otb and get called. Flop comes T-9-4 with two hearts, you bet and get called. Turn is a deuce.
This is not a spot where you can bet the turn and then bet the river and expect to get called two more times by a worse hand often. So I'd maybe bet the turn (intending to fold to a raise) and then check most rivers or check the turn and try to either bluff-catch the river getting two streets of value that way. If the river is something like a K and he checks I might bet to try to get him to bluffcatch with a worse nine or pocket pair (A4 maybe?), again getting two streets of value, although that might be thin cause lots of Tx play this way and he might fold some of the range we beat.
As for a good 2nd barreling opportunity:
You open 56s and get called. Flop is T-8-4 rainbow. You bet and get called. Turn is a King. That King misses a check/calling range on that flop pretty hard and serves as another scare card to an 8, a 4 or a pocket pair (or A-hi if he's a really loose peeler) and he might fold a weak T so this is a good spot to place a second barrel. Also, there aren't many draws in his range so it's less likely he wants to c/c again.
On the other hand, same situation but the flop is K-2-4 rainbow and he calls your cbet. The turn is an 8. This is not a good barreling spot cause now pocket pairs are gonna be more stubborn, a King is never folding obviously and it's less likely he peeled the flop with a weak pair cause there's just fewer deuces in preflop calling ranges than any other card. A four might not even fold cause that 8 looks like a pretty safe card.
As for 3rd barreling opportunities: The more draws there are on the board the more likely it is that if you place a second barrel you need to barrel the third time. You do not want to let a small pair that picks up a draw on the turn and check/calls your barrel get a free showdown on the river.
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not sure these are the best examples but they should give you an idea.
Last edited by Wolfram; 10-25-2010 at 03:40 PM.