6bet pot. Call on the river too loose?
01-31-2018
, 05:43 AM
iPoker - €0.20 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: 49.5 BB
UTG: 101 BB
CO: 165.4 BB
Hero (BTN): 418.8 BB
SB: 520.75 BB (VPIP: 27.23, PFR: 21.04, 3Bet Preflop: 9.28, Hands: 6,133)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q
A
fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, SB raises to 8 BB, fold, Hero raises to 21 BB, SB raises to 57 BB, Hero raises to 117 BB, SB calls 60 BB
Flop: (235 BB, 2 players) 6 Q
3
SB checks, Hero checks
Turn: (235 BB, 2 players) J
SB bets 117 BB, Hero calls 117 BB
River: (469 BB, 2 players) 5
SB bets 286.75 BB, Hero calls 184.8 BB
The player viewed me as a highly skilled aggressive player. I have been stacking up by running many bluffs and he knows it. Considering the meta game I created,my image,having positional advantage being this deep he could definitely see me 6bet bluffing. His counter strategy seemed to be to try and run his own bluffs or re-bluff me because of his unsuccessful attempts in calling me down.
Is this call on the river just too loose in a 6bet pot?
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: 49.5 BB
UTG: 101 BB
CO: 165.4 BB
Hero (BTN): 418.8 BB
SB: 520.75 BB (VPIP: 27.23, PFR: 21.04, 3Bet Preflop: 9.28, Hands: 6,133)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q
A fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, SB raises to 8 BB, fold, Hero raises to 21 BB, SB raises to 57 BB, Hero raises to 117 BB, SB calls 60 BB
Flop: (235 BB, 2 players) 6
Q 3 SB checks, Hero checks
Turn: (235 BB, 2 players) J
SB bets 117 BB, Hero calls 117 BB
River: (469 BB, 2 players) 5
SB bets 286.75 BB, Hero calls 184.8 BB
Spoiler:
KThe player viewed me as a highly skilled aggressive player. I have been stacking up by running many bluffs and he knows it. Considering the meta game I created,my image,having positional advantage being this deep he could definitely see me 6bet bluffing. His counter strategy seemed to be to try and run his own bluffs or re-bluff me because of his unsuccessful attempts in calling me down.
Is this call on the river just too loose in a 6bet pot?
Last edited by B3ck; 01-31-2018 at 05:52 AM.
01-31-2018
, 07:14 AM
Is this a brag post? 
About the river... If he can do it with AK it's a call regardless of what else he's doing it with. After 6k hands with him you should have at least an idea if he can do it with AK, but the important thing here is frequency;
For instance if he'd only do it with the suited AK (or 25% of the time with AK) it's a fold. If he does it with all AK it's a call.
Also... This is highly opponent dependent so you might have a better idea about it than we do, but I'm not sure the question is about the river. Think it's really about the turn. Unless you have a read about him giving up his bluffs with overs in 6bet pots after 1 barrel, calling turn and folding blank river seems like it's burning a lot of money. The fact that it's a 6bet pot and that you're freaking 400bb deep makes this a huge decision, but you should not call that turn bet before you know what you'll do on the river if he shoves on a blank.
And if your line would be to fold to such a shove, then ask yourself how often he'll give up, to justify you making the call on the turn.
About the river... If he can do it with AK it's a call regardless of what else he's doing it with. After 6k hands with him you should have at least an idea if he can do it with AK, but the important thing here is frequency;
For instance if he'd only do it with the suited AK (or 25% of the time with AK) it's a fold. If he does it with all AK it's a call.
Also... This is highly opponent dependent so you might have a better idea about it than we do, but I'm not sure the question is about the river. Think it's really about the turn. Unless you have a read about him giving up his bluffs with overs in 6bet pots after 1 barrel, calling turn and folding blank river seems like it's burning a lot of money. The fact that it's a 6bet pot and that you're freaking 400bb deep makes this a huge decision, but you should not call that turn bet before you know what you'll do on the river if he shoves on a blank.
And if your line would be to fold to such a shove, then ask yourself how often he'll give up, to justify you making the call on the turn.
01-31-2018
, 07:30 AM
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Not a chance we're folding river.
Stared for a good while at the preflop action before realising you explained some things at the end there but it is still very freaky. Are we intending to call off a shove, because we better be if we decide to 6bet in position, but why would we be doing that when we can flat the 3 bet, or even the 5bet profitably?
Stared for a good while at the preflop action before realising you explained some things at the end there but it is still very freaky. Are we intending to call off a shove, because we better be if we decide to 6bet in position, but why would we be doing that when we can flat the 3 bet, or even the 5bet profitably?
The 6bet was a bluff and I was planning on folding to a jam without a doubt. No way in hell would I ever be gii over 400BB deep with AQ,suited or not. The idea behind it was to get villain to fold his AK combos.
It was more of a jest.
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made me chuckle, gratz on €80 win in one hand at nl20
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Last edited by B3ck; 01-31-2018 at 07:45 AM.
