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11-06-2017 , 05:57 PM

kevin52193

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Are there actual charts for heads up where we can see how profitable defending certain hands are over a large sample size?

Right now i'm defending about 42% which is based on a graph that shows jungleman's range, but some sources say to defend wider, specifically against a min raise. When I do, it doesn't seem very good for my game.

It seems to me that this will require alot of OOP floating and c/r, in order to turn some hands unprofitable into money making hands. And then there's the question of facing double barrels and such. Is it really possible to defend wider, at say 50%?

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11-06-2017 , 07:15 PM

lvanhoe

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Originally Posted by kevin52193

Are there actual charts for heads up where we can see how profitable defending certain hands are over a large sample size?

Right now i'm defending about 42% which is based on a graph that shows jungleman's range, but some sources say to defend wider, specifically against a min raise. When I do, it doesn't seem very good for my game.

It seems to me that this will require alot of OOP floating and c/r, in order to turn some hands unprofitable into money making hands. And then there's the question of facing double barrels and such. Is it really possible to defend wider, at say 50%?

Do you know WHY this is his range? Or did you just copy the graph?

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11-06-2017 , 08:58 PM

kevin52193

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Originally Posted by lvanhoe

Do you know WHY this is his range? Or did you just copy the graph?

I copied it but i can apply basic principles to figure out why his reasons are such.

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11-07-2017 , 10:37 PM

Nick_AA

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Does that include 3b? If so seems waaaay too right.

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11-08-2017 , 08:46 PM

Tutejszy

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where did you get that graph from? What you are writing is simply wrong, most pros will defend 90-95% vs minraise, if you dont feel so sure about postflop you might go down to 80-85%, but anything lower than that is just giving away money. Vs larger sizing you will of course defend less, but even vs 3x you shouldnt go below 60% bb defend.

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11-09-2017 , 02:02 PM

kevin52193

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Originally Posted by Tutejszy

https://www.deucescracked.com/forums...ding-42-of-BB-

It's on that old link, hope i'm not breaking any rules by putting that on here.

I see. I just couldn't really believe that people were actually making money with these hands OOP, but that seems to be a reflection of my own results.

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11-09-2017 , 04:29 PM

watergun7

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That range is terrible. It doesn't take too much logic to work out that if you defend Q8o and fold K8s something went wrong. At least the author realised that you can defend every Ax vs a mr.

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11-11-2017 , 04:50 AM

Dimarik

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I think so, if you defeneding - 50% or less u really nothing understand. Ok if u opponent still 50% or 60% from bb it`s good, we defending very tight.

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