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How to play this TT in 3bet pot? How to play this TT in 3bet pot?

11-17-2018 , 03:39 AM
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 114 BB (VPIP: 20.34, PFR: 17.32, 3Bet Preflop: 7.12, Hands: 908)
CO: 121 BB (VPIP: 20.65, PFR: 17.01, 3Bet Preflop: 7.60, Hands: 501)
Hero (BTN): 254.6 BB
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
BB: 105.7 BB (VPIP: 20.37, PFR: 17.59, 3Bet Preflop: 3.28, Hands: 338)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T T

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.3 BB, SB raises to 9 BB, fold, Hero calls 6.7 BB

Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) 5 9 3
SB bets 9.4 BB, Hero calls 9.4 BB

Turn: (37.8 BB, 2 players) 8
SB bets 18 BB, Hero calls 18 BB

River: (73.8 BB, 2 players) 8
SB bets 63.6 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 63.6 BB

SB shows J K (Flush, King High)
(Pre 46%, Flop 54%, Turn 34%)
Hero shows T T (Two Pair, Tens and Eights)
(Pre 54%, Flop 46%, Turn 66%)
SB wins 192 BB

It's first hand i played with this guy
Should i raise on turn ? For protecting ,and deprive his equity?
If river comes J,Q,K,A, he bet again ,i'll in trouble
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11-17-2018 , 08:44 PM
well 1st hand vs this player i'm not gonna call river - very bad run out for both of you but more for you. His range is high cards and high pairs. He's just lucky to hit a flush.

You shouldn't post results

I don't have a ton of experience playing 100bb as I usually play much deeper and so does the rest of the table. Once in a while a player will get short and not rebuy so i'm limited to that. But vs a 100bb stack i'd probably just 4bet and not fold. If he has JJ+ good for him. SB 3bets vs BTN hands are generally full of ****.


My online poker consists of omaha only. I don't really like 100BB hold'em.

Last edited by djevans; 11-17-2018 at 08:49 PM.
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11-17-2018 , 09:20 PM
raise flop, fold river as played
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11-18-2018 , 02:50 AM
wp if you fold river
unknown sb can also shove overpairs and 8x, together with all his flushes
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11-18-2018 , 04:31 AM
I'm quite sure a solver would try to get all-in on the flop. This particular hand has few good runouts. But it's also pretty strong in absolute terms - only losing to a small % of starting hands on the flop. It just makes sense this would be the hand to use to keep him honest.
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11-18-2018 , 06:43 AM
Raising flop might be a decent option, but I'd call-call-fold on this runout. Your range should contain some boats, flushes and straights by the river, so the worst overpair is pretty low down in your range, so can be folded.
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11-18-2018 , 09:49 AM
Fold river. Raising at any point look kinda aggro, I'm not sure it could help much.
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11-18-2018 , 11:13 AM
Don't raise the flop unless you're willing to stack off.

Hand is wp up until the river. River is a very easy fold.
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11-19-2018 , 04:02 AM
I tend to stack off otf, we have fe, are ahead of 9x, fds etc
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11-25-2018 , 10:48 AM
You guys are infinitely better players then me... so I hope you won't mind the quick question.

Given how this hand has played out by OP. Against villian's range, what percentage of the time would we be good here on the river? 35-40%ish??

I plugged this river into a solver and I get calling the all-in and folding literally at EV neutral, seems that calling would be insanely high variance?

Thanks for any help.
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11-25-2018 , 04:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DonkingFlops
I plugged this river into a solver and I get calling the all-in and folding literally at EV neutral, seems that calling would be insanely high variance?
It would be. At equilibrium, this hand is just a breakeven bluffcatcher. If villain correctly balances his range (to the right ratio of value:bluffs), you are "indifferent" to calling.
In real life at these stakes, villain is likely to be more weighted towards value-hands, which makes it a very clear fold, since you won't win anywhere near often enough to break even when you call.
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