Two spots here, if I may, fairly similar.....

PokerStars - €0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 225.8 BB
SB: 103.4 BB (VPIP: 24.88, PFR: 16.50, 3Bet Preflop: 6.84, Hands: 837)
BB: 71.8 BB (VPIP: 32.43, PFR: 6.76, 3Bet Preflop: 3.33, Hands: 77)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A K

Hero raises to 3 BB, SB calls 2.6 BB, fold

Flop: (7 BB, 2 players) 3 A 8
SB checks, Hero bets 3.4 BB, SB calls 3.4 BB

Turn: (13.8 BB, 2 players) 6
SB bets 7 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

River: (27.8 BB, 2 players) T
SB bets 15 BB

My thoughts in game - over 850 hands villain is 25/17, AF 1.2.

Could possibly be value betting AQ or worse Ax here, but would be a super unusual line for a passive player to take.

He can definately have flushed and sets in his range, and I don't block any of them.


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PokerStars - €0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 109.4 BB (VPIP: 23.00, PFR: 19.00, 3Bet Preflop: 2.63, Hands: 104)
SB: 148 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
BB: 100.8 BB (VPIP: 23.88, PFR: 17.99, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 301)
UTG: 101.6 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 9)
MP: 109.6 BB (VPIP: 62.50, PFR: 62.50, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 9)
Hero (CO): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A J

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.4 BB, fold, SB calls 2 BB, fold

Flop: (5.8 BB, 2 players) 2 3 8
SB bets 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB

Turn: (15.8 BB, 2 players) J
SB bets 15 BB, Hero calls 15 BB

River: (45.8 BB, 2 players) 4
SB bets 43 BB

Here villain is 11/0 over 9 hands, so nothing interesting.

Wheel draws and flushed get there, he'd have to be doing this with worse Ax that he donked flop with, or middle pair, or bluffing 25 per cent of the time to make the call ok.

Hand #1: I would just call turn & river for good price alone and I won't bother putting villain on a range here.

Hand #2: I would just fold flop facing a pot-size donk bet + with no backdoor flush draws from a villain who seems passive even only on 9 hands. Turn & River is an easy fold vs a pot-sized bet.

eh think fold river in h1 is somewhat ok - AKo pretty lowish in our range and i dont expect to be good enough of the time ether.

not sure what youre doing otf hand 2 with two overs no bd facing a psb donk!

Hand 1: call as the pot odds are good enough. Possibly raise his turn bet?

Hand 2 : raise his turn bet ans evaluate after that. U have TPTK on turn, why would you just call.. Against a passive player you might get a call and check on the river. You can showdown psbly

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Hand 2 is awful advice

Hand 1 - how do you fold there? Fold everytime a flush hits?

Hand 2 - top pair is a good enough hand here

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what..

Was replying to chipsncrisps

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Raising turn in hand 2 is really bad IMO. If villain has draws / air / worse value hands in his range, don't blow them out of the pot.

I call river in H1 (but it's kind of close) and just fold flop in H2.

Thanks all....need to get better at dealing with donks, probably should have done so already they happen so often.

Muku.... 'U have TPTK on turn, why would you just call..' ... you must raise a lot of turns. Seriously though, I don't see any merit to raising here, as I think it just folds out all the stuff we do beat, and leaves us against all the stuff that we don't.