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NL10 6-max straight OTT vs mono Flop NL10 6-max straight OTT vs mono Flop

04-01-2019 , 06:01 PM
BU 36/31 3bet 11.4 over 103 hands
SB 30/20 3bet 12.3 agg 3.8 over 153 hands

not sure about the Turn play. V looks like a loose aggro

SB: $13.44 (134.4 bb)
BB: $11.37 (113.7 bb)
Hero (MP): $10 (100 bb)
CO: $14.67 (146.7 bb)
BTN: $12.21 (122.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 4 5
Hero raises to $0.20, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.60, SB calls $0.55, BB folds, Hero calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.90) 5 2 3 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $0.62, SB calls $0.62, Hero calls $0.62

Turn: ($3.76) 6 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3, BTN folds, SB raises to $6.80
Hero?
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04-01-2019 , 07:07 PM
I don't think we should have a leading range on the turn. And if we want one I don't think this is the right hand to balance potential bluffs, we have enough flushes and not so many reasonable bluff candidates (Adx and that's it ?).

As played fold because you're basically always drawing dead.
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04-01-2019 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by xamlop
I don't think we should have a leading range on the turn. And if we want one I don't think this is the right hand to balance potential bluffs, we have enough flushes and not so many reasonable bluff candidates (Adx and that's it ?).
Should our leading range only consist of nut flushes and Adx semi?

I called flop mostly for straight otherwise it's better to fold OTF. Then OTT it is most likely to see a check-around or a small-bet-and-Call so I virtually give away my hand I was aiming at OTF with lots of free river cards.

OTT calling is not considered. Basically I was thinking about fold or shove.
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04-01-2019 , 11:17 PM
There was at least two really agressive player at the table as you shared the info with us, so I didn't like your pre sizing, and hand selection. Mini-raising from UTG against this guys with a weak hand was inviting for dance to them! When the table is more agressive than usual, then you'd better tighten up. I don't recommend mini raising from EP, only in tournaments!

As played flop was an easy c/c for you, you just couldn't fold, you had TP and OSD, you had the odds to make the call, BU could just try to steal the pot, etc.

I also didn't like your big lead on the turn, it seemed an overplay for me. I know your point, you didn't want to give free cards for them, but we just didn't have the range-advantage there. But I could be wrong there, I see reasons for leading against 2 opponents. If we get called, would we check/fold blanky rivers? Because I see not much value in betting . . . It would be interesting what do a more experienced player say about leading the turn in this situation!

As played folding seems logical for me.
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04-02-2019 , 01:17 AM
Playing bloated pots OOP multiway with 5-high isn't going to be spectacularly profitable. Fold to the 3-bet.
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04-02-2019 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by csabitoavegtelen
There was at least two really agressive player at the table as you shared the info with us, so I didn't like your pre sizing, and hand selection. Mini-raising from UTG against this guys with a weak hand was inviting for dance to them! When the table is more agressive than usual, then you'd better tighten up. I don't recommend mini raising from EP, only in tournaments!
I include some specs in my range always.This is actually part of my strategy. I mix up minraising with premiums to balance out my range and at the same time discourage opps to 3bet bet me so I could play my specs for a cheap price. On the other hand I do want to play my specs IP and this spot is kinda non-standard play for me.
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04-02-2019 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
Playing bloated pots OOP multiway with 5-high isn't going to be spectacularly profitable. Fold to the 3-bet.
Fair enough. Usually I try to play my specs IP but in this spot the price and odds were too good to fold
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04-02-2019 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by fghexe
Should our leading range only consist of nut flushes and Adx semi?
You don't really need one outside of very specific circumstances.

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I called flop mostly for straight otherwise it's better to fold OTF. Then OTT it is most likely to see a check-around or a small-bet-and-Call so I virtually give away my hand I was aiming at OTF with lots of free river cards.

OTT calling is not considered. Basically I was thinking about fold or shove.
You can x/c for the straight but you need to treat it like a bluffcatcher that wants to get to showdown cheaply. Shove makes no sense, and fold probably shouldn't happen on the turn if he's capable of barreling a fd.
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04-02-2019 , 12:00 PM
Fold pre the first time. Definitely fold to the 3-bet. DEFINITELY fold on the flop, you're potentially drawing dead
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