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Originally Posted by Tutejszy
I only play zoom, where population overfolds bb vs 2,5x (and those who dont are often complete fish, vs whom you dont mind playing 100% ip), so I use 2,5x, but I can see your strat making sense vs competent opponents at the low stakes (oxymoron?) due to rake
Do you mean population overfolds wrt. what could be considered GTO optimal?
I play 100nl+ and typical match is getting action from regfish at 6am.
I think vs high 3-bet guys I should reduce open sizing, because every time my opponents 3-bet is successful, he wins a bigger pot.
I think it also depends on how much they call pre vs 3-bet. If a guy 3-bet 30% and call 10%, we would be folding a lot to 3-bets while we don't get to see flops IP.
That said, once we call the 3-bet or 4-bet, we could consider that his 3-bet steal was unsuccesful. Problem is that I think he is getting similar risk-to-reward ratio even if we opened 2x or 3x.
So we would have to win back those 3-bet steals often enough to make it not work. And we can do that with just by opening 2x, and we lose less every time we fold.
I would have to observe my opponents and see if their range changes when I open smaller.
It would be nice to play less pots because of rake, but vs high 3-bet guys do we just have to give up this bigger opening sizing?
This one opponent, he 3-bet 24% and call 28%. Post-flop he is good.
So his Fold BB is 48%. Not making auto-profit (>62.5%), but I don't expect mR to bring auto-profit either.
If he had post-flop leaks like high FTCB and he was passive, I think then 3x would be nice, since we get to utilize that positional advantage very well.
tl;dr
- 3x brings opponent money when we fold to 3-bet
- 3x brings us money when opponent calls
- we can fight back same range regardless of opening sizing. Just lose less when we FT3B. 3x inflates the pot and makes it slightly worse to call drawing hands.
To counter the high 3-bet strategy, you could OR tight and call 3-bets wide. This villain I mentioned does call enough and not just 3-bet everything.
I don't see that strat working without playing a tight opening range. But the question is is this profitable? Another question is whether high OR % would even be good against this guy. I really like the idea of just folding pre, but sucks if I fold 30% and he only folds 5%. He would be getting easy money when I fold, while I have to fight back for every loose open that he makes. That could just be profitable, but I'm not an expert post-flop, very fit & foldish. But I do know that having 62o in your opening range makes post-flop trickier for you
Last edited by Fishtankz; 01-16-2018 at 08:21 AM.