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50 NL flush facing river shove 50 NL flush facing river shove

04-24-2019 , 11:30 AM
PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $58.07 (VPIP: 72.88, PFR: 54.24, 3Bet Preflop: 21.82, Hands: 141)
Hero (BB): $58.28

SB posts SB $0.25, Hero posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has 2 K

SB raises to $1.25, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.50, 2 players) J J 4
Hero checks, SB bets $0.79, Hero raises to $2.50, SB calls $1.71

Turn: ($7.50, 2 players) 8
Hero bets $5.34, SB calls $5.34

River: ($18.18, 2 players) 6
Hero bets $16.00, SB raises to $48.98 and is all-in, fold,

Villan is tight aggresive reg.

So i check/raise a somewhat dry flop with my K flushdraw and he calls what gave me the impression of mid pocket pairs, suited broadways (a bit less likely since i have a K blocking Kj, KQ, AK) and a rare monster like J4. I think trips would cbet a bit stronger to charge any flushdraws and and sometimes even raise my raise. Some low flushdraws may float my c/r too. I bet again turn 3/4 pot (thats what id do with my trip jacks too) and he calls too. River brings the flush, so i bet for value against trips and low flushes, but i get jammed. I folded to what i though it was a clear Fullhouse, but equilab says i have 85xcent EQ against his range, is this mean that it was a bad fold? i know the guy coulded have turn his pocket pair hand into a bluff, but idk. My reasoning for folding in realtime was that nobody could be bluffing in that spot, so at least he had the A high flush. What do you guys think?
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04-27-2019 , 12:07 PM
When you bet that river, you have such a strong range consisting of full houses, big flushes and some air, that it makes almost no sense for Villain to bluff.

Therefore Villain’s shove range can only be made of full houses and very few bluffs.

Since you are at the very bottom of your value range, I would say you should definitely fold.

If Villain is crazy and bluffs this spot too often, you will own him long term.
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04-27-2019 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by lush_3d
equilab says i have 85xcent EQ against his range
You have 85% against which range? Maybe against his flop calling range, certainly not on the river.

River fold was fine. I think it would only be bad against an opponent who sees you value betting too thinly and is capable of turning hands like TT or AcKd into a bluff here.
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04-28-2019 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by manhattan7
River fold was fine. I think it would only be bad against an opponent who sees you value betting too thinly and is capable of turning hands like TT or AcKd into a bluff here.
Even such an opponent needs to have way too many bluffs to make calling profitable with this particular hand.
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06-19-2019 , 02:17 PM
not wp imo
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06-19-2019 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by applesauce123
not wp imo
Good input
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06-19-2019 , 07:30 PM
If he’s a tight agro reg he’s not bluffing in this spot that’s a more laggy/maniac bluff. And trips would bet this size on the flop, he’s gonna be bettin near enough his entire range this size on a board like this.. he’s not goin to bet more to charge draws with certain hands this is not the right way of thinkin vs a good reg.

Anyway back to the hand I’d say he’s not turning his hand into a bluff here, the only thing you could consider is that if he’s bad enough to over play a lower flush here which lookin at the board is a risky assumption to make without reada
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06-21-2019 , 05:22 PM
I like folding because it's better than calling
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