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Originally Posted by kaby
So all the hsnl players that have all moved to cbetting paired boards smaller and often are wrong?
1) All paired boards are not created equal.
2) Not necessarily. They could be exploiting a tendency in their opponents to over-fold the flop and/or fail to check/raise bluff as aggressively as they ought to.
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Originally Posted by kaby
Also, why would you bet this flop less often than usual? BB has 50.8% equity and a bit more 8x, but it's not an especially good board for BB. I feel this is an above average board for BTN.
I feel like these claims are contradictory. If BB has both more equity and more strong hands, how is this not an especially good/above average board for him?
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Originally Posted by kaby
One thing to point out is that due to card removal effects the amount of 8x BB can valueraisetostackoff isn't that large.
I suppose it depends on what you think "that large" means.
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Why? This comes out of nowhere. You have an equity advantage vs the range that continues vs the 3bet, so it's just straight up value, and you yourself advocated 3betting non-polarized vs minraises in the other thread
1) The fact that I agree with 3-betting some non-zero % of the time means I think the decision is very close. 3-betting is definitely profitable, I simply think flatting is more so.
2) 3-betting every hand that has an equity advantage vs the range that continues vs the 3-bet is an extremely bad idea.
3) Compare KJo to a hand like 43s. KJo is obviously just a much better hand, yet I think you should usually 3-bet 43s and usually call KJo, even though 3-betting with KJo is more profitable than 3-betting with 43s. What matters isn't just whether you can 3-bet profitably or how strong your hand is, but whether 3-betting compares favorably to calling.
4) I'm much more likely to 3-bet KJo against a 3x than a 2x.