Poker - Game of chance OR Skill
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 189
Hi Guys,
I am standing to trial in my country (Israel) in related to poker, the country says poker is a game of chance, and I am trying prove the game is a skill game.
the court asked me to provide a research about the world, and how other countries are looking at the question, I know we had a lot of cases in US, and other places, so I wanted to know if someone here can help get all of that info?
specially the case in Sweden, and in general Europe and far east, which I cant find myself.
Thanks,
Roni
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,187
The proving has had some success, but it doesn't include the vast majority of recreational player in cash and tourneys, as the variance doesn't catch up, making it a game of chance.
Other than that there are some tourney tracking sites (SharkScope) and the Russian invite only tracking site for cash but it isn't catching anywhere near all hands I read (that can be a problem). Then there are some variance formula theories that should not be hard to get. There has been high-level research (don't know where) and the bot stats exist somewhere (where they develop those bots, like in some uni) that might be meaningful.
Almost forgot: there are also variance vs. win rate simulations, not just math. Don't know where but I have seen them.
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 41
I think had no sense to try to show in a court that is a skill game or a luck game.
If judge thinks is a luck game, then propose him to play against you 10.000 hands in heads up (if you are a skilled player)
If judge thinks that is a skilled game, then propose him to play 10 hands against your grandmother at very high stakes level (and tell her that she must push every hand)