Take that to all of the naysayers who thought that sports betting in NJ was doomed! Can't wait to head to Borgata to place my bets on next Sunday's games.

You probably have to wait a long time. Because the NFL and friends have a lot more money and clout and brains than anybody in the state of NJ.

https://twitter.com/Grange95/status/509036198099431424

Key interesting points that I do think is valid.

I don't think so. The NBA has already made their position to sports betting known and they want in on the pie. The question is if any of the casinos in AC are willing to offer sports betting.

That's a pretty big deal and quite an improvement from 2012 when they joined the suit against NJ's sports betting plans. We're on the right side of this issue, support for iGaming can mostly only increase IMO.


Adam Silver: Legalized sports betting 'inevitable' in more states

The NFL also has a position.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...isnt-changing/

Public opinion has changed on weed, a lot. It has changed somewhat on gambling too, but the difference is, there are real societal harms associated with gambling and basically none associated with weed.

"Equal dignity of states" is a different doctrine. Has nothing to do with this.

Has this passed below our radar?


Governor signs NJ sports betting bill



http://espn.go.com/espn/chalk/story/...tting-bill-law

"Also on Friday, New Jersey Attorney General John Hoffman withdrew the state's request for clarification regarding a February 2013 ruling from a U.S. District Court that had gone against the state in the case. While appealing that ruling, the Third Circuit Court of Appeals wrote in its opinion that the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act of 1992 -- the federal ban on state-sponsored sports betting -- did not prevent New Jersey from repealing its own sports betting prohibitions. New Jersey framed its new legislation on that opinion and elected not to wait for the court to clarify."

Christie: Casinos, tracks can offer sports betting [NVG]

Chris Christie issues directive letting casinos, racetracks offer sports betting in New Jersey
[Sports Betting]

This could get interesting...

Christie signs law allowing sports betting in N.J. [nj.com]

So, if the leagues go back to court but are told to take a hike, do the feds send in US Marshals and/or FBI agents to arrest the operators of Monmouth Park next Sunday?

No. If the leagues lose in court, there is nothing to be done. The leagues fought the DE sports lottery decades ago and lost, so there is precedent.

But I would bet on the leagues to win this one.

i dont understand why the leagues are against sports betting now? I understand 15+years ago when the players of the major sports league did not make enough money that it might be tempting to fix games…. But today they all make millions of dollars or at least the players that can have an impact on the games. It is not worth the risk of fixing. I do understand why the NCAA would want bans on sports gambling NCAA basketball games are prime targets for fixing. But in todays world it would help boost ratings even more for all their sports

Aside: players made millions of dollars 15 years ago.

The answer to your question: risk vs reward. The risk of a sports betting scandal, however unlikely, that would cost a league a small fortune. Versus, the reward, which in this case, is nothing.

Cut the leagues in? Maybe. But how does NJ make sure the money is paid - after all, NJ will not be regulating this industry.

Bolded is false, the sports league benefit from sports betting through increased interest, and eyes.

Proof?

Guaranteed if this were true, the leagues would be pushing for expanded sports betting. It simply isn't true.

Betting on a game doesn't mean you watch the game to see how it turns out. You bet on many games, and simply check the scores later.

There is no return for the leagues, and as stated, they assume risk with no reward. No way they go for that.

I think the leagues are happy with the current status of the sport. As long as sports betting is only in Las Vegas, Las Vegas can charge higher vigs. As result Nevada will actively promote NFL, sort of like a symbiotic relationship.

The NBA is pushing for expanded sports betting:

Adam Silver: Legalized sports betting 'inevitable' in more states

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Some people watch the game, some don't. I'd have to think most do. I wouldn't bet on a game if I wasn't going to watch it.

It is human nature to resolve suspense as soon as possible. The only way to resolve the suspense of whether a bet has been won or lost, is to watch the game in real time.

The NFL opposes because they believe expanded sports betting would taint their sport in certain ways and thereby undermine the long term profitability of their product, and because they are narcissistic bastards.

According to opinions offered by lawyers earlier in this thread and confirmed by reports in the media, PAPSA, nor any other federal law, makes the act of placing or accepting bets a crime. PAPSA merely prohibits the states from implementing a regulatory regime. I guess they (Bradley) thought the absence of a regime would prevent the states from cashing in and thereby legalizing the activity. What they didn't count on, I suppose, was the motivation brought on by an economic down turn.
http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/..._mulshine.html
"That strategy focuses on a weakness in the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act (PASPA). That federal law does not criminalize sports betting; it merely bans states from setting up sports-betting regimens."

Without a law in place I am not sure what the courts could do to stop NJ from, essentially, not doing something.

I suppose what could happen is the NFL will turn to Congress to fix the loophole, but it is tough to get anything through Congress, esspecially when a big state opposes. So, a deal might be made to cut NJ in as an exception state.

when i said 15+ years ago i meant all players making millions of $$$$$. I know the stars of the games made millions but the everyday players still only made in the 6 figures not 7 like today.

Also if you bet on a game you are probably going to watch it which = more people buying NFL sunday ticket, NHL center Ice, NBA league pass, and MLB's tv package so they can watch all the games. The only people that dont watch the games are the (sharps). The people that bet on sports for a living

Edit:Should read: It is human nature to resolve suspense as soon as possible. The only way to resolve the suspense of whether a bet has been won or lost, as soon as possible, is to watch the game in real time.

The NFL is not happy with sports betting in NV. They just can't do anything about it.

The NBA position is unique to the NBA. This is not how the NFL and NCAA feel.

People used to bet on horse races "off track" long before they could watch them. Degenerates gonna degen. Eventually we got sports pagers - now we has the internet. Does the league make anything for their real time feed? If it does, I am willing to bet it is PEANUTS.

I seriously doubt if there are very many of those people.

Also, please supply some data on the average or minimum salaries of major sport athletes to support your assertion.

Also, please supply some data on the average or minimum salaries of major sport athletes to support your assertion.

i might of been off by a couple of years in the NBA and MLB . With the Average salary hitting 7 figures in 1992.... NFL in 1999. The NHL average also not hitting 7 figures until 2001... But my point is that these leagues should not worry about scandals since the players make so much money. The NCAA should be the only league against Sports Gambling...... source for salaries http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=390818

And for all the people who keep on arguing here, please read this:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...isnt-changing/

“As you know, we fought legalized gambling, sports gambling, for a long time, most recently here in New Jersey, and I would see our position in the same vein going forward,” Goodell said.

So if you can't understand why the NFL is against sports betting, can you at least accept that is is, cockamamie arguments notwithstanding.

I know the NFL is against it and i cant understand why lol... it makes no sense..... but yet they lobby for Fantasy Sports which is just another form of gambling

Which they are directly profiting from - hence, the distinction.