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Old 06-21-2016, 10:40 AM   #1
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Czech Regulation

http://www.onlinepokerreport.com/211...-online-poker/

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No online poker bet can exceed CZK1,000 (~$41.45) and no winnings on one game or tournament can exceed CZK50,000 (~$2,072).
I'm surprised to see no one has posted anything about this. I cant even find any source online anywhere about this provision even with google translate and searching in czech language. The only thing that comes up is this article.

So yeah wtf, I cant imagine pokerstars actually doing this and banning all people in CZ from playing anything above 10nl. I emailed Stars and they responded with "We are closely monitoring the situation, and we support the introduction of sensible licensing regimes".

Obviously this isn't sensible. Thoughts? Any other countries that have something like this on the books?
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Old 06-23-2016, 09:17 AM   #2
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Re: Czech Regulation

I don't know how good the Czech government are at passing/enforcing legislation. I remember reading last year that they were banning indoor smoking form 1/1/16 and that didn't happen. I'm also surprised there aren't more sources though.
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Old 06-23-2016, 06:11 PM   #3
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Re: Czech Regulation

Living in CZ for less than a year atm.

Saw the bad news a couple of days ago. The law is already signed and supposedly will be implemented in 1st Januray 2016.

Most of czech people think Zeman is just a tard old fat comunist, but he still has 2 years to go... So I'm afraid this law is likely to be taken very seriously. It will impact very very negatively on CZ economy since the gambling industry here is huge, there's a casino in every corner.

However I see two good points that might delay all this process.
1- The government will lose a lot of money, so they might think it twice before Janurary. I guess there are some business people in the gaming industry who have influence in political decisions.
2- They say they will share liquidity with everyone. How the heck are you going to program stars specifically not to be able to give more than 2000$ in a tournament? It would be a ton of programming work and very difficult to implement. They would have to limit a ton of games and have a lot of headache around that.

Idk what will happen but I'm already looking for a new cool place to live, quite used to it
First Spain, then Portugal and now CZ. Everyone seems to mess it up and want to kill poker except UK
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Old 08-25-2016, 01:48 AM   #4
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Re: Czech Regulation

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http://www.onlinepokerreport.com/211...-online-poker/



I'm surprised to see no one has posted anything about this. I cant even find any source online anywhere about this provision even with google translate and searching in czech language. The only thing that comes up is this article.

So yeah wtf, I cant imagine pokerstars actually doing this and banning all people in CZ from playing anything above 10nl. I emailed Stars and they responded with "We are closely monitoring the situation, and we support the introduction of sensible licensing regimes".

Obviously this isn't sensible. Thoughts? Any other countries that have something like this on the books?
What if I amass 40 bucks on NL2 and then ship it? This bet limit makes totally no sense....I am afraid Pokerstars will just close, like in Slovenia etc...but poker and gamlbing in CZ is huge and population 5x higher than Slovenia, so I hope it stays here.

I don't mind paying taxes and having reasonable regulation law, but this is non sense.

CZ politics are really really bad and the worst thing is lobbying from czech gambling companies...they don't like that people are playing on much better sites abroad so they likely shipped a lot of money to the important guys...
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:03 AM   #5
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Re: Czech Regulation

any news about law???
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Old 12-08-2016, 01:07 PM   #6
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Re: Czech Regulation

I will post there complete "new law" in czech language... Its too long, you can try it to translate with translator... It definetly will not be 100% right, but at least something...

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Old 12-08-2016, 01:08 PM   #7
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part 2:

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Old 12-08-2016, 01:08 PM   #8
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Re: Czech Regulation

This part (par four) is mainly about internet poker:

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some facts in short:

- It looks likete there will be "only" .cz client like .uk

- No player to player transfers

- Only one deposit/cashout option (must be same), bank account - i hope skrill will be possible, but im not sure

- Players need to confirm their age, name and adress in czech physically at some places. (this EPT Prague or CZECHPOINTs after new year)



Also its Czech Republic, so dont rely on this, take it like info only. There can be some changes until it will become to apply...
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Old 12-10-2016, 01:38 PM   #9
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Re: Czech Regulation

hey there, how this will affect people from abroad living in CZ?
Also I have a couple of sites where i have my address in CZ like bwin, winamax etc. Are this sites going to be effectively blacklisted?
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Old 12-10-2016, 08:34 PM   #10
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hey there, how this will affect people from abroad living in CZ?
Also I have a couple of sites where i have my address in CZ like bwin, winamax etc. Are this sites going to be effectively blacklisted?
imo it should affect you same as czech people, law applies to gambling operation on the terriotry of Czech Republic.

About sites... They need to apply for licence in CZ, only "bigger" sites apply, some smaller will close for CZ market. I read some news article about more sites requested license than expected...

It is possible .fr sites will not be available anymore.


Terrible info from sites, i did not received one word about this from them and im sure im not alone.
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Old 12-10-2016, 10:18 PM   #11
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Re: Czech Regulation

i play on 4 different sites and only pokerstars contacted me so far.
Is there somewhere a list of the sites that got license?
Also im wondering if they have a plan on blocking sites and bank wire transfers.
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Old 12-11-2016, 05:13 AM   #12
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Re: Czech Regulation

If anyone of you is living in Czech Republic, how do you deal with taxes?

- Do you even declare your winnings?
- If so, do you pay tax? I've read tax on winnings from gambling is 0%, what about income tax?
- Do you just ship money from Stars (any other site) to your bank account, or you use some kind of neteller/mb stuff?
- Will those 2017 changes affect the current status?

Greatly appreciated!

(feel free to pm me if you dont want to write in public for whatever? reason?)
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Old 12-12-2016, 02:26 PM   #13
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i play on 4 different sites and only pokerstars contacted me so far.
transfers.
Mind sharing what they had to say about this?
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Old 12-13-2016, 08:13 AM   #14
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Re: Czech Regulation

Pokerstars told me that they are going to get a license and that i should register in EPT or in a designated place. However they didnt say anything about daily limits or maximum winnings
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Old 12-13-2016, 08:16 AM   #15
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Re: Czech Regulation

So far nothing about that max bet nonsense. Lets hope it stays that way.

I did the ID reg at the EPT few days ago, took just a few minutes.
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Old 12-16-2016, 06:23 AM   #16
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Re: Czech Regulation

- I didnt seen any list of licensed sites

- They have plan for blocking non licensed sites. Ministry of finance will create list of theese blocked sites. ( i am curious how this will work because they leave this blocking site part at internet providers, MF only create list and penalize for not blocking)

- They also have plan for blocking transfers from and to theese blocked sites. Payment service providers should do this...

- Max bet/winning/lose limits are for VLTs not for online poker.
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Old 12-30-2016, 12:16 AM   #17
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Re: Czech Regulation

Yesterday I got an email from Triobet that they will close all accounts which are registered with a Czech address, and people living there should cashout everything immediately.

I am living both in Prague and in Helsinki, now I am here in Finland. The last 1,5 years I have played mostly in Prague, both live and online. Probably some local people recognize me from this post.

So does someone know how this will go in practice? It is a quite worrying situation.
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Old 12-30-2016, 08:08 PM   #18
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Re: Czech Regulation

Well the only things i can say at the moment are:

- Pokerstars is stop offering real money from 20:00 local time on December 31.2016 and they don't have an ETA when they will be back (although it seems that it won't take long because they have applied for a Czech Republic license).

"PokerStars is temporarily suspending Real Money play for players in the Czech Republic.

We recently emailed to tell you we have applied for a Czech Republic licence and that we hoped to have it in time to launch PokerStars.CZ on January 1, 2017.

Unfortunately, we have not received confirmation yet that the licence has been granted. As a result, we will have to temporarily suspend Real Money play from 20:00 local time on December 31, 2016.

Your money is safe in your account and will be kept there as normal. Play Money and Freemium are not affected.

We hope to resume Real Money play as soon as possible and will notify you about this as soon as we can."

- Winamax.FR is closing and it will not return to the Czech Republic.

- ipoker through titanpoker is still up but on other cases such as Bet365 it's closed already.

- 888poker and partypoker are still playable but still no information about the future.

If anyone have any extra information, please share with us!
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Old 12-30-2016, 09:45 PM   #19
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Found this site with some information, but u will have to translate it

http://www.pokerarena.cz/rubriky/zak...017_11641.html
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Old 01-08-2017, 04:54 PM   #20
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Any update on Stars reopening?
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Old 01-11-2017, 01:25 PM   #21
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Re: Czech Regulation

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In late 2016, we contacted you with news that our Czech Republic licence application was still pending, leading to a temporary suspension of Real Money games for CZ players. This email is to let you know that our application is still under review, and we expect approval within the coming days.

Rest assured, we are doing everything possible to restart Real Money games as soon as possible, and we would like to stress that any Real Money funds associated with your Stars Account are safe and secure. Please Note: Play Money and Freemium games continue to be available.

If you have any questions or concerns please contact our Support team.

Thank you once again for your patience.
Regards,
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Receveid this mail last week (6 days ago) but no news since then
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Old 01-12-2017, 05:40 AM   #22
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Re: Czech Regulation

today i asked when i will be able to play:

Thank you for your email.

Unfortunately we cannot answer this question at the moment. We are positive that we will obtain the licence in the following weeks.

Should you have any other queries, do not hesitate to contact us.

Regards,
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Old 01-12-2017, 06:47 AM   #23
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https://translate.google.com/transla...-text=&act=url

Czech thread Ive been following. Some better info there as the people here have been in contact with the ministry directly. Still nothing to do but wait.
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Old 01-12-2017, 04:56 PM   #24
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Re: Czech Regulation

I would be surprised if Pokerstars gets it's licence before June 2017.Especially with Czech bureaucracy.
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Old 01-13-2017, 05:29 AM   #25
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Apparently its 30 days, 60 max.
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