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Old 07-28-2010, 01:25 PM   #376
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Re: HR 2267 Markup, Wed. 7/28 10:00am

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I agree about opening up jobs, but make the writing more clear, its absurd to expect all companies not from the US to move their entire operation here, a part or main HQ is very reasonable and smart, it doesn't seem they want this, they want the entire Cake...that is irresponsible and not feasible IMO.

I agree, he is doing a good job of allowing appeals
Again...Think about a B2B...Pokerstars or FullTilt in partnership w/ Trump or Wynn...Funnel everything from Trump or Wynn that checks ALL U.S. DEPOSITORS and then funnels them to an int'l lobby...That is 1 way around it...

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Old 07-28-2010, 01:25 PM   #377
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Barney is awesome.
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:25 PM   #378
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Re: HR 2267 Markup, Wed. 7/28 10:00am

Why does Bachus think it is so hard to eliminate underage gambling? I had to give my SS# to Stars for e-checks. My credit card company asks me several questions (based on my credit report) to prove my identity. Could poker sites not do this as well?

If this goes through, I see a day several years down the road where people play at Harrah's, MGM, etc. online and PS and FT go the way of Paradise Poker. We all love those sites, but with advertising, the new sites will have even more players.

Hopefully we can take from some of the lottery business. Anyone stupid enough to play the daily pick 3 on a consistent basis can't be very good at poker.
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:26 PM   #379
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I'd agree with you in principle, but consider that a player's winnings come from other players, while rakeback comes from the "house."
no, rakeback comes from your RB site, not the poker site itself.

FT doesn't pay me RB, RBpros does (hidden brag about having RB on FT)
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:28 PM   #380
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Re: HR 2267 Markup, Wed. 7/28 10:00am

Where does bachus think these 12 year old kids get the money to gamble? Do many 12 year olds have debit cards??? This guy is so full of ****..... personal liberties, freedom, and responsibilities congressman...ever hear of those concepts??
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:29 PM   #381
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CHESS?? wat
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:29 PM   #382
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Re: HR 2267 Markup, Wed. 7/28 10:00am

Passes by voice vote
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:30 PM   #383
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Re: HR 2267 Markup, Wed. 7/28 10:00am

So it passed the mark-up??
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:30 PM   #384
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The Ayes have it.
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:30 PM   #385
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Roll call at 3:20....Did u all call your Congressman?
Crossing fingers.
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:30 PM   #386
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No, roll call vote will be done at 3:20 est. I assume they will do the roll call votes for the other amendments as well.
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:30 PM   #387
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Re: HR 2267 Markup, Wed. 7/28 10:00am

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Where does bachus think these 12 year old kids get the money to gamble? Do many 12 year olds have debit cards??? This guy is so full of ****..... personal liberties, freedom, and responsibilities congressman...ever hear of those concepts??
LOL when I was a kid it was hard enough to scape up some change to go to the corner store and buy penny candy.
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:30 PM   #388
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Re: HR 2267 Markup, Wed. 7/28 10:00am

what's going to happen at 3:20 EST? vote on overall bill?
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:31 PM   #389
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role call votes @ 3:20

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Old 07-28-2010, 01:31 PM   #390
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roll call at 3:20PM EST
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:31 PM   #391
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Roll call vote at 3:20.
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:31 PM   #392
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Will we be able to watch the vote like we watched this online?
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:31 PM   #393
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Re: HR 2267 Markup, Wed. 7/28 10:00am

Ship it!

Barney agreed that the bill will progress in the House alongside a revenue bill. Does anyone have any info on the status of that bill?
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:32 PM   #394
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Hopefully we can take from some of the lottery business. Anyone stupid enough to play the daily pick 3 on a consistent basis can't be very good at poker.
Phil Ivey regularly plays craps for millions of dollars.



But yea, I agree with you in 99.9% of cases
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:32 PM   #395
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Re: HR 2267 Markup, Wed. 7/28 10:00am

Gotta love Barney Frank. He totally owned Bachus all day long!!
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:33 PM   #396
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Ship it!

Barney agreed that the bill will progress in the House alongside a revenue bill. Does anyone have any info on the status of that bill?
It's still in committee waiting for mark up
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:33 PM   #397
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Re: HR 2267 Markup, Wed. 7/28 10:00am

What was the significance of that bit with chess and poker being mentioned together?
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:33 PM   #398
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"People who don't care about gambling are free to leave." I thought that was priceless. XD!
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:34 PM   #399
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Phil Ivey regularly plays craps for millions of dollars.



But yea, I agree with you in 99.9% of cases
I would say the odds are much better at craps, depending on what bets you make, than the pick 3, pick 4, or whatever other games they offer. I hear ya though.
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:35 PM   #400
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Re: HR 2267 Markup, Wed. 7/28 10:00am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the ays have it, right? Baccus seemed to be the only opposer. A formal vote is scheduled but it looks like we got it locked up, yes? One more question, I heard something in passing... Was there an amendmant made that allows the states to treat poker and chess bets as different forms of gambling than other casino games? Does this mean poker will finally be treated differently in the eyes of the online gaming laws (in other words, can states opt out of casino games but allow poker?) BTW, I am from New York City and I want to know what you guys think NY will do...
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